Originally Posted by icallshotgun88
Good info, thanks. So can you recommend me a similar to this Leupold one I was thinking of buying?
I've been looking at the Leupold VX R 4-12x50mm
(It's $820ish on their website here but I found the exact one on eBay for $620, so I'd like to stay in the $600-$700 price range)
I like that it's the variable power of 4-12, the illuminated reticle and I really like the look of 50mm even if it isn't much of a benefit.
But honestly, most important to me is durability and reliability...
Use is for hunting of course 95% of the shooting will be for fun on the range..
This is my main hunting optic http://www.midwayusa.com/product/216007/trijicon-accupoint-tr20-2g-rifle-scope-3-9x-40mm-dual-illuminated-mil-dot-with-green-dot-reticle-matte
I also use it for target shooting. I've got some 15x and one benchrest type in 42x under 500yards I tend to shoot at 5-6 power. 7 and up it stats to get real twitchy with lots of xhair bounce from heart beat and muscle movement.
I'm not a huge fan of large objectives since most are just doing it to try and compensate for crappy glass.
Ganand cabelas usually have these types of scopes in stock I would suggest going and looking through them yourself. Once you look through a trijicon or nightforce you will see why I'm recomending them.
Last deer season I would sit in the stand waaay before dawn and just with the ambient lighting I still had my green dot in the accupoint couldn't see the xhairs for crap but I was able to make out a pig pack. No moon almost no light to speam of I was able to see the big lead hog and take him out with a perfect head shot at 92 yards.
I've tried that same situation with illuminated reticles and they are just too bright for low light work. The tritium dot really makes a huge diff.
I run green dot because it works the best in low light and very bright daylight. My night forces have red illumination but I find that pretty useless for anything but a golly that's cool factor. Its the only real ding I have on those and why my next optic is going to be the 1-4x accupoint in green chevron.
The problem with second focal plane optics is you tend to have to use the highest power for ranging. Ranging at 9x isn't easy and higher powers make it harder due to xhair bounce. Its kinda why I didn't fight the wife too much when she took my nf 4.5-15 nxs. Its heavy and I never really used the higher magnification.
You can do what ya will I'm just relaying my experiences and opinions. Just go take a look in person at the optics. Most big box retail oitdoors type carry them.