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I agree with our 1x4 assessment. I used a 1x4 Leopold for many years and liked it. I am trying a Burris MTAC 1x4 and did not like the reticle when I first got it but the more I use it the better I like it.

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I agree with our 1x4 assessment. I used a 1x4 Leopold for many years and liked it. I am trying a Burris MTAC 1x4 and did not like the reticle when I first got it but the more I use it the better I like it.
Burris just makes Good Stuff!! sorry if that sounds "Too Simple" for most. I'm using the Heck out of our FF2 & FF3's,..next to Get a 332 or 536, or the MTAC with the Pepr mount and a FF on top,...The "Scope" for "Distant Reaching Out" and the Fast Fire for "closer" encounters....
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thanks for all the input.

I have since purchased the bushnell ar optics 1-4 (I got both the reg. and illuminated). one, if not both will be going back.

I am a NOVICE in every way when it comes to scopes, and these are just my first impressions as I have not shot with the scopes yet.

I think the 1-4 (non illuminated) is going back. it is a very clear, bright scope for the $ imo. my problem is the reticle which imo, is FAR too busy to be effective. I just don't like it.....I also would have preferred they set the center bull for a 25 or 50 yard zero, and then just set maybe 2 other drop marks like 100 and 200, maybe 300. the reticle is too small and crowded and I think it will be a problem for closer work. I honestly would have preferred a simple crosshair.

the Illuminated has me interested, but I am not sold yet. at 1X the reticle is TINY with the FFP set up. some have said this is on purpose to act as a red dot. I can get behind this, but I have also read it gets washed out in bright daylight, which would make it useless for this application. lately, we have had many overcast days, so I haven't had a chance to try out full sunlight. I will report back when I get a look through it in full sunlight. EDIT: I don't have much hope though, because it is not really very bright on this overcast day today! the optic itself is compact (enough), a bit heavy....but overall clear and bright. and despite some making fun of it.....I REALLY like the power change lever...it works great imo.

the jury is still out on the bushnell for now. any other recommendations for an affordable 1-4 scope. it doesn't have to have illumination, but I want it to be quick, compact (less than 10" length) without an overly busy reticle.

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anyone have any feed back on the BURRIS FULLFIELD TAC30?

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Don't over look the weaver 1.5-6 . It is a 30mm body with a 32mm front lenes with a 223 bdc reticle with info for 4 different nato cartridge. Street price tends to be very low at around $178. I bought one for my AR build knowing its a china made scope but I am very pleased with it. Disregard the not very noticeable green logo marks and its a solid scope at a great price.

http://tacticalgunreview.com/blog/2013/09/staff-review-budget-optics-weaver-kaspa-1-5-6x32-scope/

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thanks for all the input.

I have since purchased the bushnell ar optics 1-4 (I got both the reg. and illuminated). one, if not both will be going back.

I am a NOVICE in every way when it comes to scopes, and these are just my first impressions as I have not shot with the scopes yet.

I think the 1-4 (non illuminated) is going back. it is a very clear, bright scope for the $ imo. my problem is the reticle which imo, is FAR too busy to be effective. I just don't like it.....I also would have preferred they set the center bull for a 25 or 50 yard zero, and then just set maybe 2 other drop marks like 100 and 200, maybe 300. the reticle is too small and crowded and I think it will be a problem for closer work. I honestly would have preferred a simple crosshair.

the Illuminated has me interested, but I am not sold yet. at 1X the reticle is TINY with the FFP set up. some have said this is on purpose to act as a red dot. I can get behind this, but I have also read it gets washed out in bright daylight, which would make it useless for this application. lately, we have had many overcast days, so I haven't had a chance to try out full sunlight. I will report back when I get a look through it in full sunlight. EDIT: I don't have much hope though, because it is not really very bright on this overcast day today! the optic itself is compact (enough), a bit heavy....but overall clear and bright. and despite some making fun of it.....I REALLY like the power change lever...it works great imo.

the jury is still out on the bushnell for now. any other recommendations for an affordable 1-4 scope. it doesn't have to have illumination, but I want it to be quick, compact (less than 10" length) without an overly busy reticle.

The old addage buy once cry once is especially true with optics as is kis (keep it simple). That's why my preferred optics are from trijicon either the acog or accupoint series.

The green chevron or mildot are ideal depending on need. The chevron I zero the tip for 100 then the apex under the tip is 200 and the base line is 300. Works welll for 556 or 308 at those ranges.

Other than that nothing really beats a simple duplex xhair or German #1 post if you can find em
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well, i THINK i have settled on the nikon m 223 with the point blank reticle. saw it on sale $60 off reg price, and after being pleased looking through it, i took a chance.

pros: i like the reticle on initial impression, but i haven't shot with it yet.....some seem to dislike the reticle in opinions i've read. i like the simplicity of it. scope is VERY clear and bright imo.

cons: so far, from the perspective of not having shot it yet, the only con i see is it is a bit bigger than i would have liked.

i think its going to fill my needs as "irons" with some magnification. no co-witness, but i have a QD to remove quickly if needed.

i will definately report back when i get range experience.

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well, i THINK i have settled on the nikon m 223 with the point blank reticle. saw it on sale $60 off reg price, and after being pleased looking through it, i took a chance.

pros: i like the reticle on initial impression, but i haven't shot with it yet.....some seem to dislike the reticle in opinions i've read. i like the simplicity of it. scope is VERY clear and bright imo.

cons: so far, from the perspective of not having shot it yet, the only con i see is it is a bit bigger than i would have liked.

i think its going to fill my needs as "irons" with some magnification. no co-witness, but i have a QD to remove quickly if needed.

i will definately report back when i get range experience.
the m223 is an excellent choice especially if you take advantage of the spot on software...
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[QUOTE="hardluk1"]Don't over look the weaver 1.5-6 . It is a 30mm body with a 32mm front lenes with a 223 bdc reticle with info for 4 different nato cartridge. Street price tends to be very low at around $178. I bought one for my AR build knowing its a china made scope but I am very pleased with it. Disregard the not very noticeable green logo marks and its a solid scope at a great price. http://tacticalgunreview.com/blog/2013/09/staff-review-budget-optics-weaver-kaspa-1-5-6x32-scope/[/QUOTE

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Hawk: it is "Supposed" to be a Great scope, my "Bullet" Guy has one with a fast fire II on his( he's why I got the FF III!)....
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