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07-05-2012, 02:00 PM
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A scope on my .308
I just got a winchester model 70 chambered in .308. They make all these darned bolt actions with no iron sights so I will have to install a new scope. I love the Nikon m-223 but as the name suggests, it is designed for .223 rifles. I was just wondering of it would be safe to use that optic on my rifle. I don't want a bleeding circle around my eye.
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07-05-2012, 06:42 PM
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I don't think there is a problem with "scope eye" here.
For example, I pulled up the specs on the Nikon 2-8X32 Nikoplex scope and they advertise eye relief of 3.8 - 4 inches.
By comparison, my Trijicon 3-9X40 AccuPoint (not designed necessarily for an AR-15) shows eye relief of 3.6".
I have a Bushnell Elite 4200 2.5-10X40 on a 7mm Rem Mag that shows 3.3" eye relief (I presume that is for the 10X setting).
So, I would be surprised if any of the other Nikon M-223 models were significantly different.
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07-05-2012, 06:46 PM
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On that one, you had better contact Nikon and make sure they will warranty the scope if used on .308 first. There are lots of other scopes in that $300 range that will do the same thing and will take the .308
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07-07-2012, 05:31 AM
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Turns out that the .308 168 grain and the 5.56 62 grain don't have
that much difference in bullet drop.
HOWEVER, with Nikon I don't think you have to worry about it.
You can probably mount that 223 scope on top of practically any caliber.
You can calibrate it fairly easily by using Nikon's software.
I've done this for 3 of my rifles with 3 different Nikon scopes.
http://www.nikonhunting.com/spoton/turrets/
I'm not considered an experienced shooter but I print out their cheat sheet and tape it to
the buttstock.
I've read the reviews on the M-223 scope and i'm not that impressed with the price. (i
think too much hype). This is why I went with the Hi-LUX CMR for my AR-15 and a
second one for my SCAR-17 (.308).
For your rifle, (if it were me) I would use the Nikon 4.5-14x40 Buckmaster with BDC
reticule. This is what I have on my POF-308 20" barrel.
If you get the M-223 please tell us how you like it.
Pic of Nikon P-22
glovesandclover.com/22marlin/22marlin-turk.jpg
My Cheat-sheet for the P-22 on my 22 Marlin
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07-16-2012, 02:52 PM
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Rusty, First off, great choice of a rifle and cal.. Now for choosing a scope. Lots of variables come into play at this point. Things to consider, how far will I be shooting? Wide open plain's or dark thick timber ? How far are you comfortable shooting? Do you want a full size scope or compact light weight one for long hikes? Price of course is a big issue as well.
While a M-223 Scope would more then do the job, especially if you use Spot On to optimize your BDC reticle. As Gloves suggested, the Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 with BDC reticle is an excellent scope option. The BDC reticle with Spot On will let you dial your ammo,rifle and scope in to increase accuracy. I have one on a AR in .243 that is great for shooting 55 grain bullet's at critters or 90 gr. partition's at deer. I just go into Spot on and make the bullet changes.
I hope this info. helps? Feel free to drop me a note if you have more question's. Glove, nice pic of your Marlin and P-22 !
Here's a pic of the Tikka T3 .308 with a PROSTAFF 4-12 BDC that my Father In-Law used last year to harvest a nice Ks. buck.
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/Daveanddeer.jpg
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07-17-2012, 03:27 AM
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Originally Posted by bman940
Rusty, First off, great choice of a rifle and cal.. Now for choosing a scope. Lots of variables come into play at this point. Things to consider, how far will I be shooting? Wide open plain's or dark thick timber ? How far are you comfortable shooting? Do you want a full size scope or compact light weight one for long hikes? Price of course is a big issue as well.
While a M-223 Scope would more then do the job, especially if you use Spot On to optimize your BDC reticle. As Gloves suggested, the Buckmaster 4.5-14x40 with BDC reticle is an excellent scope option. The BDC reticle with Spot On will let you dial your ammo,rifle and scope in to increase accuracy. I have one on a AR in .243 that is great for shooting 55 grain bullet's at critters or 90 gr. partition's at deer. I just go into Spot on and make the bullet changes.
I hope this info. helps? Feel free to drop me a note if you have more question's. Glove, nice pic of your Marlin and P-22 !
Here's a pic of the Tikka T3 .308 with a PROSTAFF 4-12 BDC that my Father In-Law used last year to harvest a nice Ks. buck.
http://i1216.photobucket.com/albums/dd363/bman940/Daveanddeer.jpg
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I went with a Simmons 3-9x40. I've shot it, it works great. I can't wait to bag that trophy!
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07-17-2012, 04:11 PM
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That is what it is all about Rusty. Find what works best for you and go with it. I hope you have a succesful hunting season.
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07-18-2012, 01:16 PM
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Originally Posted by bman940
That is what it is all about Rusty. Find what works best for you and go with it. I hope you have a succesful hunting season.
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I do to. I'm not a hugely successful big game hunter, but I hunt mainly for the enjoyment( but it helps to get a nice buck every now and then  )
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07-18-2012, 01:40 PM
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Originally Posted by RustyShackleford101
I do to. I'm not a hugely successful big game hunter, but I hunt mainly for the enjoyment( but it helps to get a nice buck every now and then  )
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......or a tasty doe for the freezer!
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07-18-2012, 02:06 PM
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Originally Posted by treehugger49
......or a tasty doe for the freezer!
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"Remember kids, nobody can tell wether that's a buck or a doe just from a slab of meat."
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