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Old 01-04-2014, 08:24 PM   #41
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Curious if you have had Vortex failures and if so what happened?
my strikefire has had two instances where the electronics shut off under recoil but i cant replicate it so havent sent it off to vortex yet. the sparc has survived just fine on 458 socom and 45-70 under range conditions.

personally im just not a fan of purely electronic sights. if you have really followed some of my postsings im like the person that if something is going to break i will break it.

if you are going to run electronic either co-witness or have the optic on a single lever qd mount with buis ready to go.

ive got a really low tolerance for things that break or dont work.

the vortex stuff is the best of the low end rds type sights till you hit the aimpoint territory. i havent even tried the eotech cuz i know it wont hold up to my ability to destroy things unintentionally. ive seen enough of eotechs in the possession of others who have problems of one sort or another that if i bought one and attached it to a rifle it would prolly be the one in a million that would explode into a zillion pieces...
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mileage varies. both my vortex sparc and strikefire are using the original batteries but i dont trust them for anything serious just for plinking.
I guess when you put it that way I don't necessarily "trust" mine either. I do have iron sights zeroed, and the red dot is on a quick detachable mount. Every now and then I'll practice popping it off and check whether it will hold a zero when I put it back on. But I'd do that with any electronic sight.
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my strikefire has had two instances where the electronics shut off under recoil but i cant replicate it so havent sent it off to vortex yet. the sparc has survived just fine on 458 socom and 45-70 under range conditions.

personally im just not a fan of purely electronic sights. if you have really followed some of my postsings im like the person that if something is going to break i will break it.

if you are going to run electronic either co-witness or have the optic on a single lever qd mount with buis ready to go.

ive got a really low tolerance for things that break or dont work.

the vortex stuff is the best of the low end rds type sights till you hit the aimpoint territory. i havent even tried the eotech cuz i know it wont hold up to my ability to destroy things unintentionally. ive seen enough of eotechs in the possession of others who have problems of one sort or another that if i bought one and attached it to a rifle it would prolly be the one in a million that would explode into a zillion pieces...
Yeah mine is set up with a lower 1/3 co-witness I don't think I'd rely solely on any electronics period. Just curious what your experience has been. Thanks for the info!
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I have my TRS 25 set up with absolute co-witness and a quick detach mount. Using the large aperture on my rear sight, actually turns out to be about the same relative diameter at the sight window. I've even played with just using the sight turned off as a Ghost ring. It actually works pretty well out to 50 yds, surprisingly enough.

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Yeah mine is set up with a lower 1/3 co-witness I don't think I'd rely solely on any electronics period. Just curious what your experience has been. Thanks for the info!
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I have my TRS 25 set up with absolute co-witness and a quick detach mount. Using the large aperture on my rear sight, actually turns out to be about the same relative diameter at the sight window. I've even played with just using the sight turned off as a Ghost ring. It actually works pretty well out to 50 yds, surprisingly enough.
Cowitness best way to run a rds. They do have real limitations.

A big limitation is running an rds from dark to light to dark or being in the dark looking out to light. The dot can either disapear or blur your vision depending on circumstance until you adjust the knob taking your hands off the controls or contorting to a weird off hand technique.

Its why I mainly use trijicon they adjust automagically in brightness as needed to ambient light levels. The only time you don't get an illuminated reticle is when your in the dark looking out to light the reticle turns black but is just as usable in that condition as if it was lit.

The optics I prefer do add some weight over red dots as well as some size.

Anyway just a little more in the why's of what I like in optics.
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http://swfa.com/Vortex-1x30-StrikeFire-Red-Dot-30mm-Sight-P11251.aspx
The one thing I dont like about the Vortex StrikeFire is the 4 moa dot. My TRS25 has a 3 moa. My Bushnell 1-4x24 scope has a 1 moa dot. The scope will work without power and is what is on my AR. It also uses the 2032 battery.
My wife's 15-22 has a TRS25 with absolute co witness on the flip ups. Doc is right about the TRS working as a ghost ring.
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For the OPer, SIG sells a very good red dot tube for under $200. Mine was about 160. Often a big brand name covers up crappy accessories, but in this case it's honest to goodness. Holds zero and has minimal blur.

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The one thing I dont like about the Vortex StrikeFire is the 4 moa dot. My TRS25 has a 3 moa. My Bushnell 1-4x24 scope has a 1 moa dot. The scope will work without power and is what is on my AR. It also uses the 2032 battery.
My wife's 15-22 has a TRS25 with absolute co witness on the flip ups. Doc is right about the TRS working as a ghost ring.
I don't have a problem with the 4 MOA dot, at least on my carbine. It means I am going to be able to hit an 8" target at 200 yards (which I do very consistently with my AR15 M4). For anything past that distance, I would not be using a dot scope anyway.

If I am looking for 1 moa accuracy personally I need a scope 100 yards and beyond.
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I was wondering if you guys could help me.

I'm having trouble finding a good Red Dot Sight for the dollar. I want to put one on my CETME/HK G3 Rifle (Semi-Auto; .308 Winchester). Perhaps an all purpose one that would work for most all applications.

I've bought a simple $20 Red dot Sight and had the hardest time sighting that sucker in. I can't get it perfect for close and long ranges at the same time (I only went to a 25 yard indoor range and shot at small rifle targets). That sight wasn't good enough, and now I find myself selling it.

I want a Red Dot Sight, but nothing as expensive as an ACOG that can go as far as $500+.

Anyone know of a Red Dot Sight (not one that zooms in, but I'm not ruling that one out) that will give me the confidence and ranges of at least 100 yards that would be no more than $300 or $400? Or even better one that's about $200 or less?

I don't have too much experience with these sights, and I don't want to buy another one and waste my money.
My wife bought me a sight mark red dot looks kinda like a eotech but a little different, they have 3 models all under 200 I told her I was thinking about it but I didn't want to waste money on it because it wasn't gonna be as good as a eotech turns out it held zero really well the only thing different from what I'm use to is a regular scope is 1/4 inch Moa this one is 1inch clicks the model I got is the sightmark ultra shot pro spec NV QD it's night vision compatible I wouldn't say it's better then a eotech but it worked on my ar and I do run and guns at my lease at targets at 50,100,and 200 yards and I can send results if you want to see them
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