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Old 12-12-2012, 06:52 PM   #1
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Default Nikon P-223 or M-223

So I've decided on Nikon as my AR scope. Question: should I go with P or M series and why? Also, should I go with 1x4, 2X8 or 3X12?

I'm going to using this for paper punching and varmit hunting and maybe backup hog gun...can't see more than 300yd shot.

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Millerlite,

If you are going to hunt hogs with it an you being in Texas and also want to do some precision paper punching I would highly recommend the 3X12. But keep in mind if you are mounting any regular sized scope on an AR Rifle you will need one of the Scope Mounts that moves the scope forward on the picatinny rail. Otherwise you will not have enough eye relief. And the eye piece of the scope will be too far back over the stock. The ideal location is the Eye Piece even with the Rear of the Charging Handle as in the picture. Here is a sample of the location needed. My 6.5 Grendel has a RRA Scout Rail that allows me to move the rings farther forward to get the required eye relief. But they have mounts that do the same that are one piece. One other thing I would recommend the Medium Height Unit. As far as the P or M cant go wrong with either one. NIkons are good scopes.

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I was thinking of just getting the M-223 mount...need to check eye relief though. Thanks. I was assuming the mount would give me enough forward mounting

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I'm debating the same thing for my RECCE build so I'm interested to see the responses.

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The 2-8 has more magnification than you'll ever need for an AR.

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I recently purchased the p series p223 scope and love it. Went online to the Nikon spot on program input the information for my round, gave the designated hold points and was right on. Nice scope. My first Nikon (have leupolds on my other rifles) and am impressed with it. God buy for 200 bucks, p series rings included

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I think you guy's are ont he right track. Living in Tx. I routinly have shot's on hogs at over 200 yards and I like being able to dial my magnification to 8X. For coyote hunting in West tx. I use the Nikon M-223 3-12 since some shot's will be longer then 300 yards. Then you'll need do decide which reticle, the BDC or Nikonplex which allows you to literally turn the turret to the distance you are shooting. This scope is calibrated for a 55 gr. bullet at 3240 fps. The BDC will let you use whatever bullet you want to and then utilize Nikon's Spot On Ballistic Program to get the most accuracy out of your BDC reticle. I use BDC scopes on all my hunting rifles. Makes for fast and accurate shooting.
Eric, I just picked up the P-223 3-9 BDC 600 Scope, can't wait to get some rounds down range under it. The guy's I know using this scope love everything about it especially the price.

Guy's drop me a note if you have any question's about Nikon's scopes.

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I've been lurking on the forums here for a few weeks now, and Monday, I'll be getting my first AR (a Sig 516 Patrol). I've decided to go with the P223, but had a question about the mounts. Do I have to use the Nikon mounts, or will mounts from other manufacturers work?

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Slack, You do not have to use the Nikon AR mounts. As long as they are 1 inch rings you willbe fine. I also like the distance from the center of the bor to the center of my scope to be around 1.5 inches. Have you looked at Nikon's M-223 one piece AR mount? It is made by a company here inthe US who has been making scope mounts for a long time. I use the M-Series XR on most my of my AR's.The XR, Extended Range, gives you an extra 20 MOA for long range shooting. if you're not planning to shoot past 400 yards you will be fine with flat M-223 Mount. Make sure you check out Spot On to dial in your ammo and scope. Wish I had a dollar for every time I've turned someone on to Spot On, over 1,000,000 users can't be wrong.
This pic show's the M-223 XR Mount.

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I had seen that mount, but hadn't really seriously considered it. After your mention of it, I'll look into it.

Once I get the scope, I imagine I'll be a frequent user of spot on. That's one feature that attracts me to the Nikon scopes.

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