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 01-26-2012, 08:34 PM | #1 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 16 |  Need Help Choosing a Scope!
I own a Ruger M77 220 Swift with a Tang safety made approx. 1974. I want to install a quality scope, but NOT break the bank. Primary use will be coyotes, target, and prairie rats.
I want to be able to make the most out of the speed and accuracy of the rifle. Everyone talks about Nikon, Leupold, Swarovski, etc.. But what about Alpen's Apex? Scheels Paragon? Others?
I know "you get what you pay for", however, I am hearing that some "off brands" are being made in the same factory(s) over in Japan and are pretty good. I like Nikon glass, but hate their reticles (BDO = Big Dumb Circles), I love NightForce, and Vortex but can't afford them, and Leupold is over rated and over priced IMHO.
So, please give me your thoughts and experiences. I would love to hear from people who have used Alpen or Scheels. They both have pretty decent warranty for the price. __________________
"I love unicorns because when they eat rainbows they poop butterflies." --My daughter
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| 01-26-2012, 08:37 PM | #2 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: fordland, missouri Posts: 4,877 |
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Originally Posted by Stryker41
I own a Ruger M77 220 Swift with a Tang safety made approx. 1974. I want to install a quality scope, but NOT break the bank. Primary use will be coyotes, target, and prairie rats.
I want to be able to make the most out of the speed and accuracy of the rifle. Everyone talks about Nikon, Leupold, Swarovski, etc.. But what about Alpen's Apex? Scheels Paragon? Others?
I know "you get what you pay for", however, I am hearing that some "off brands" are being made in the same factory(s) over in Japan and are pretty good. I like Nikon glass, but hate their reticles (BDO = Big Dumb Circles), I love NightForce, and Vortex but can't afford them, and Leupold is over rated and over priced IMHO.
So, please give me your thoughts and experiences. I would love to hear from people who have used Alpen or Scheels. They both have pretty decent warranty for the price.
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Try weaver grand slam
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| 01-26-2012, 10:19 PM | #3 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Location: Arcata, California Posts: 377 |
Burris makes nice scope for the money...middle of the cost road and middle of the performance road. Their calibrated reticle with hold over marks are a good idea, in theory, but my experience at the range is that theory and reality are different and needed hold over varies with the ammo. __________________
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| 01-26-2012, 10:38 PM | #4 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: fordland, missouri Posts: 4,877 |
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Originally Posted by Jeepergeo
Burris makes nice scope for the money...middle of the cost road and middle of the performance road. Their calibrated reticle with hold over marks are a good idea, in theory, but my experience at the range is that theory and reality are different and needed hold over varies with the ammo.
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Yes burris is another good scope so is redfield. Redfield is very clear and reasonably priced
God didnt make all men equal colonel Sam Colt did __________________
Aim small miss small-the patriot
one well placed headshot=not known what hit it-me | |
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| 01-26-2012, 11:01 PM | #5 | Senior Member Join Date: Oct 2011 Posts: 407 |
Ziess is great but around the price of Leupold and up. The 3-9x40 is 400 at academy sports & outdoors |
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| 01-27-2012, 01:32 PM | #6 | Junior Member Join Date: Nov 2010 Location: West Palm Beach, Florida Posts: 8 |
Burris, Redfield and Millet all make good value for money scopes. | |
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| 01-27-2012, 01:39 PM | #7 | Senior Member Join Date: Sep 2011 Location: Garden City, Missouri Posts: 116 |
I have a Weaver V-classic 4-16 on a little Weatherby 243 and it's an outstanding scope, but it's around that $300 mark. A scope to consider would be a Mueller scope. They have a few that are around $200 and less, with very good Customer Service. Don't own one, but reviews have been very good. Another scope to look at would be a Simmons. Go for the new "Master Series" 44MAG with S/F model(I own one) and they are MUCH BETTER than the regular run of the mill Simmons scopes, or get an older Aetec(discontinued) model as it was a very nice scope that held up over time.
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| 01-27-2012, 05:21 PM | #8 | Junior Member Join Date: Jan 2011 Location: Eau Claire, WI Posts: 16 |
Thank you for the replies. I have to see what is carried in our local sporting stores. As far as the ammo concerns, I reload my own, ('cause 220 Swift ammo is hard to find around here).
I posted another thread looking for viable varmint load recipes for a 220 Swift if anyone has experience with this I'd appreciate some input. Right now my best load is 38gn of H380 with a CCI large mag primer and a 55gn nosler. Getting 5/8" 5shot groups at 100yds, but think I can do better.
I've been trying to work up some Barnes Varmint Grenade rounds but not satisfied with the 3/4" groups I am getting with that. __________________
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| 01-27-2012, 05:35 PM | #9 | Senior Member Join Date: Aug 2011 Location: Elkhart, Texas Posts: 3,318 Likes Given: 7
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check out the Swift Premier line of scopes. i just started using them about two years ago, and now i have two of them on difeerent rifles. i had never heard of them before, but i'm really impressed with them. also if you don't like the Nikon BDC reticle, then opt for the scope with the Nikoplex reticle, same scopes with a regular type reticle. i have a couple of those in the Nikon Prostaff. | |
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