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I'm saving up for the h&r 12 gauge ultra slug with the thumbhole stock. I plan on putting the truglo 4x32 tactical mil-dot scope on it. It's a FFP fixed 4x. My 5 questions are :

1. How do you sight in a mil dot / turret scope?

2. How long is a mil at 4x considering most mil dot scopes are 10x+?

3. Can the truglo scope handle slug recoil?

4. Im not going to shoot farther than 200 yards ; how far should I sight in at to get the most use out of the reticule (I have a laser rangefinder)?

5. Which scope would be better for slugs : the truglo mil dot scope or the tasco 3-9x mil-dot scope?

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actually i would go with a nikon slughunter scope.

a shotgun will beat the snot out of a truglo in no time flat.

mildots arent going to mean much to you if your using a range finder....

at 100 yards a typical subtend (center of a mildot to center of the next) is 3.6"

more info at http://www.mil-dot.com/articles/the-mildot-reticle i dont feel like typing it all out.

for slug hunting your better off forgetting mils and go with a reticle that is calibrated for a typical shotgun slug. nikon does it really well and they offer software called spot on that lets you figure exactly what your drops are for a given range at a given magnification.

some folks like truglo i wouldnt use one to beat a terrorist to death...

your going to have the same issues with tasco on a slug gun

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actually i would go with a nikon slughunter scope.

a shotgun will beat the snot out of a truglo in no time flat.

mildots arent going to mean much to you if your using a range finder....

at 100 yards a typical subtend (center of a mildot to center of the next) is 3.6"

more info at http://www.mil-dot.com/articles/the-mildot-reticle i dont feel like typing it all out.

for slug hunting your better off forgetting mils and go with a reticle that is calibrated for a typical shotgun slug. nikon does it really well and they offer software called spot on that lets you figure exactly what your drops are for a given range at a given magnification.

some folks like truglo i wouldnt use one to beat a terrorist to death...

your going to have the same issues with tasco on a slug gun
OK, what about:

Truglo shotgun scope w/ diamond reticule

Electronic red dot scope

Simmons 4x32 scope with 4" eye relief

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OK, what about:

Truglo shotgun scope w/ diamond reticule

Electronic red dot scope

Simmons 4x32 scope with 4" eye relief

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I normally would get a Nikon bdc scope but it's just a summer job (I'm 16) and I want to take my girlfriend out with whatever $$$ is left
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I'm saving up for the h&r 12 gauge ultra slug with the thumbhole stock. I plan on putting the truglo 4x32 tactical mil-dot scope on it. It's a FFP fixed 4x. My 5 questions are :

1. How do you sight in a mil dot / turret scope?

2. How long is a mil at 4x considering most mil dot scopes are 10x+?

3. Can the truglo scope handle slug recoil?

4. Im not going to shoot farther than 200 yards ; how far should I sight in at to get the most use out of the reticule (I have a laser rangefinder)?

5. Which scope would be better for slugs : the truglo mil dot scope or the tasco 3-9x mil-dot scope?

Okay first a little information that will help you better understand MILs versus MOA



Now that you've got that under your belt I'm going to bring up just ONE point in scope selection. Reticle & turret graduations and having them match. I'm sure after watching these two videos you can see the potential for a LOT of math when using a scope with a mildot reticle with MOA turrets which seems to be the case with the Truglo you mention. I really don't recommend the mismatch. If you are going to buy a mildot reticle scope I would suggest you chose one with mil graduated turrets.

As to how to fit and sight in a scope here are a couple more videos that contain some good information on the subject.



Hope this helps

EDIT: Just an FYI all fixed power scope by definition are FFP
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actually i would go with a nikon slughunter scope.

a shotgun will beat the snot out of a truglo in no time flat.

mildots arent going to mean much to you if your using a range finder....

at 100 yards a typical subtend (center of a mildot to center of the next) is 3.6"

more info at http://www.mil-dot.com/articles/the-mildot-reticle i dont feel like typing it all out.

for slug hunting your better off forgetting mils and go with a reticle that is calibrated for a typical shotgun slug. nikon does it really well and they offer software called spot on that lets you figure exactly what your drops are for a given range at a given magnification.

some folks like truglo i wouldnt use one to beat a terrorist to death...

your going to have the same issues with tasco on a slug gun
Good advice being given here; do yourself a favor and give it serious consideration.
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I have a BSA shotgun scope on my slug gun. I have been very fortunate with the BSA. The first one I had lasted several years. One of the mounts broke taking out the scope with it. I learned a lesson from that experience, use steel mounts or mounts like the weaver quad lock.
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Back to the scope, I sent BSA the old scope and a check for $10. BSA replaced my scope with a much nicer nitrogen filled scope that does not fog up. I haven't shot very many rounds with the new scope. But it has not drifted or given me any kind of grief.

I shoot hornady or winchester 300 gr sabots. Both brands of sabots drop around 7" at 200 yards. I sight my scope in 2" high at 100 yards. Longer shots are difficult to make due to wind drift. A 12 ga sabot has a poor ballistic coefficient. At 200 yards a steady breeze will push a sabot a foot off target.

Due to the wind it is best to sight in your shotgun a couple times. Try to get some practice on windy days. Allowing for wind drift is not rocket science but it requires practice with the ammo you plan to hunt with.

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Just buy a respectable rifle scope in what ever power range you like. Some like a redfield 2-7 will hold up and not clutter up the lens with unneeded dots and lines. Work your zero out to a 150 to 175 yards . As you find what shoot best at 100 makes some note as to where it impacts at 50 too and 200 yards and your ready too. I have had an old bushnell 3-9 on mine for some 25 years. Winchesters 386gr nosler partition slug fps slug is a fast almost 2000fps slug that carry's well down range and bucks the wind well. You will not get lots of wind drift with the heavier sabots. More like a hot 45/70 load. Solid 200 yard slug load.

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Truglo shotgun scope w/ diamond reticule

Electronic red dot scope

Simmons 4x32 scope with 4" eye relief

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See hardluk's reply above.

My opinion is if you buy cheap your going to be buying again. This doesn't mean you need a 1400$ nightforce. It just means save up a little more for a better optic from a company with a decent rep for making shotgun optics.
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I agree with what JOn M and others have said. Buy Once Cry Once. Also the Nikon slug scopes are not that pricey. You should be good to go for like $200. Check optic planet, Cabellas, Sportsmans Guide etc as they often have them for sale. This is the cheapest I have found in 5 minutes of googling. http://www.universalmania.com/nikon-slughunter-3-9x-40mm-shotgun-scope-with-bdc-200-reticle/?gclid=CKr9v6_6mb4CFRFnOgodxT8A_w

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