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Tackleberry1 04-05-2010 04:25 AM

XD/Winchester Target Range Ammo
 
I bought my XD Service Model .45 ACP back in 05. Have roughly 2000 rounds through it with ZERO malfunctions until last Saturday.
I was shooting Winchester Target/Range 230gr FMJ and had 4 FTF's.
Pull the trigger and "CLICK"
After keeping it down range and counting to 60 just in case, I'd drop the mag and rack the slide to eject the unfired cartridge. All 4 FTF cartridges had a firing pin dent in the primer but failed to detonate. The "dents" were about 1/4 the depth of the dent's in my spend brass collection but I was not able to compare it to spent cases from the XD on the day in question as we were shooting in 8" of snow.
I feel this must be due to 1 of 2 possibilities. Either:
1. I've gotten ahold of an ammo run with hard primers?
2. My firing pin and or spring needs replaced.

Anyone else encountered this with .45 ACP XD's or with .45 ACP Winchester Target/Range 230gr FMJ?

Thanks

robocop10mm 04-05-2010 08:33 PM

If you have fired this gun a lot, you may need to have the striker pulled and the striker channel cleaned. I have seen a BUNCH of gunk from carbon/oil mixture to brass shavings in firing pin/striker channels. They can build up to the point they cause some failures to fire. It may not be every time, but enough to make you go "WTF?".

I doubt the striker/spring is bad, that rarely happens. You should always keep the firing pin/striker to prevent this from happening as easily.

Tackleberry1 04-06-2010 02:19 AM

Can the firing pin channel be dissasembled for cleaning by the owner or is this something better left to a gun smith?

I've never broken anything down beyond field stripping for cleaning.

glock2740 04-06-2010 04:17 AM

WWB ammo has been turning out alot of junk lately. QC has gone to hell. Probably because they are trying to make so fast,, that they don't care what slips through the cracks. I would chalk it up to the ammo and not your XD.

gorknoids 04-06-2010 04:24 AM

I've been assured by a polymer-hating Range Ruler that it was the Winchester ammo, and to not bother having the Croatian Sensation looked at.
Never had an issue with Remington, and have burnt exponentially more rounds of it than the WWB.

diggsbakes 04-06-2010 05:01 AM

As Robo stated it wouldn't hurt to have the striker channel cleaned. But I've gone to the point of intentionally dirtying (about 1,500 or so, w/o cleaning) my XD in an attempt to create a malfunction of some sort and haven't been able to.

I've also shot thousands of Winchester target rounds varying from .38 special to .45 in the recent months and have not experienced any malfunctions. This is not to say that a bad batch hasn't made it's way out to consumers due to excessive production, but I think it may be too early to point fingers.

Give her a good cleaning, shoot it up with a bunch of ammo, including Winchester target and see what results. Please post it, cause I'm very curious now.

Tackleberry1 04-06-2010 06:44 AM

Thank for the info fellas!

I figured out how to remove the rear plate, spring, plug, ect...and shot the hell out of it with Action Blaster.

I let the residue drip into a white towel and did find a fair amount of copper shavings. She's re-assembled and back in the safe. I'll try to get her out next weekend for a few Assorted boxes to see if I can recreate the problem and I'll post the results for consumption.

I'm starting to think this was caused by the metal shavings and not the ammo but who knows? Being my first "striker" gun, I'd never given a thought to cleaning the channel before tonight. I don't think this is a reflection on the XD as much as an embarrasing reflection of my piss poor maintenace.

Drill Sergeant Christensen is rolling over in his grave...:eek:

Tackleberry1 04-24-2010 02:34 PM

Robo nailed it.

I finally got my XD .45 ACP back to the range after breaking down the firing pin channel and blowing the hell out of it w/Action Blaster which removed a bunch of copper shavings.

I put 300 rounds through it, a mix of the same Winchester that had failed to detonate before plus some HSM factory reloads and a box of PMC.

Zero malfunctions.:)

Thanks for the advice. My XD is back it true form and I learned something new about striker guns.

Tack

gorknoids 04-25-2010 10:51 PM

I stand my slide on end and flush the channel out with WD-40 while depressing the striker block and cycling the firing pin back and forth. I haven't tried breaking the bolt down yet, but prolly should, huh?

diggsbakes 04-25-2010 11:06 PM

Eh. . . I usually wait until a problem occurs, unless it is your primary SD weapon of course. ;)


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