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Old 09-15-2011, 11:50 AM   #11
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I've got a couple questions from the discussion...

1) If the Taurus is the only one that does a full double action so you could strike the primer twice, and the XD is always cocked so the trigger pull is always like SA, then how does the Glock work different than either of those?

2) I looked at the XD specs to see what the drawings looked like. It's got a spring inside the striker that will give it force. My question is, since springs will lose power by remaining compressed, won't the "always cocked" wear it out quicker? I know hammer guns will last for many decades, but will the pistol striker last for decades without getting too weak and needing to replace the striker spring?

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Glocks are partially cocked thats why thetriggers on em feel like dragging your finger through oatmeal. They are half way between da and sa.

Springs dont lose strength by sitting in a compressed state. Springs wear only through the actual compression cycle itself. So like any other handgun a complete spring overhaul every couple thousand rounds is all it needs.

Personally i change springs in any of my handguns every 2500 rounds or if the recoil spring shows signs of weakness whichever comes first.
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I've made my purchase decision.
I contacted a dealer I've bought from before about bringing an XDm 45 to the gunshow next weekend. His price is $585.

So, in 8 days, I'll be a new XDm 45 owner!
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Looking forward to some pics and a range report .
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Springs dont lose strength by sitting in a compressed state. Springs wear only through the actual compression cycle itself. So like any other handgun a complete spring overhaul every couple thousand rounds is all it needs.

Personally i change springs in any of my handguns every 2500 rounds or if the recoil spring shows signs of weakness whichever comes first.
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When you think of a striker, think of a firing pin with a small protrusion on the bottom. That protrusion is what catches on the sear in place of the hammer, and the spring is behind the striker instead of in front, like it is with firing pins. I don't know why anyone changed the name of it. In my opinion, it's still a firing pin, it just has a different operating system.

I've had 4 different striker fired guns, an XD, and XDm and 2 glocks. I've never had any sort of malfunction with any of the 4 pistols, and would wholeheartedly recommend any of them.

As others have said, the whole Taurus double-strike thing is a gimmick. I tend to not pay much attention to anything that Taurus does or says. Just my opinion.

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congrats on your choice. im going to go shoot my new xdm 45 for the first time in just a bit from now.

more food for thought:

striker systems have been around forever longer than hammer systems. every bolt rifle ever made pretty much is a striker system...
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Another question about the stiker indicator...
When the striker is cocked, it has the little tit pop out to let you visually see it.

If you press on it, is it rigid or is it springy? If it's rigid, it would make me wonder what would happen if it was struck.
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Another question about the stiker indicator...
When the striker is cocked, it has the little tit pop out to let you visually see it.

If you press on it, is it rigid or is it springy? If it's rigid, it would make me wonder what would happen if it was struck.
that little nub that sticks out is actually the end of the striker

its pretty stiff i cant press it in. there is a firing pin block that prevents the striker from hitting the firing pin unless the trigger is pulled. you can smack with a sledge hammer and its not gonna go off.

my series 70 colt 1911 has no firing pin safety at all. i dropped it from chest height by accident last year landed on concrete and didnt go off. it takes a lot more that a simple drop to set one off. if the hammer had of been down on the loaded chamber it MIGHT have gone off. im of the opinion firing pin safeties arent needed.
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you can smack with a sledge hammer and its not gonna go off.
Are you sure about that? A sledge hammer might be enough force to break it off the lip of metal holding the stricker back?

The scenario is dropping the loaded gun perhaps onto a rock so that all the force is on the indicator sticking out.

The trigger safety keeps the trigger from being pulled. Is the other mechanism like the grip safety engaging the striker?
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There is the trigger saftey, grip saftey, and a firing pin block. When the trigger is pulled the mechanism raises the firing pin block that allows the firing pin to move forward. So unless the two saftey mechanism on the outside of the firearm are depressed and then the trigger is pulled it should not be able to fire.
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