Originally Posted by JonM
Shooting at aircraft wasnt done by just one guy. It was done by everyone with a firearm. It was quite effective when done by a lot at one time. We lost a lot of planes to groumd fire.
Cleaning rods are still issued with firearms today. Its not just for ramming a bullet onto black powder
Early ww1 there was a lack of blade makers to keep up with need so the rod bayonet was born. It wasnt ideal but it met the criteria of a pointed object to stick in the enemy when they got in your trenches.
I'm pretty confident saying that the Arisaka anti-aircraft sight never was the root cause of successfully taking out a plane if they were ever actually used. They're right up there with the dustcovers...
A Trapdoor had to look like what came before or it wasn't a proper gun -- needed a rod of some kind under the barrel and the action had to mimic a caplock. The silly rod bayonet in the (breechloading) Trapdoor replaced the cleaning-rod-only long before WWI (and even The SPanish-American War for that matter) and they never found their way back here. Not into the Krag, the 1903, the Model 1917, Garand, M-14, M-16... I know cleaning rods exist(ed).