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Redarrow18 08-09-2010 08:18 AM

Muzzle Breaks and Suppressors?
 
i have a few questions about these, sorry if this isn't the right place for it but yeah. i know suppressors are class 3 and what not, but are muzzle breaks too? if my rifle isnt threaded can i put a muzzle break or suppressor on it? thanks!

robocop10mm 08-09-2010 12:56 PM

Muzzle brakes are designed to re-direct some of the gasses in a way to negate some of the recoil forces. They can direct the gasses up to combat muzzle rise or be configured to pull the muzzle forward (see the Barret M-82).

The trade off is generally the noise is directed back at the shooter. Many brakes are VERY LOUD. There are intense forces at work that try to pull the brake off the gun. Trying to utilize one on a non-threaded barrel is mostly an exercise in futility.

Suppressors come in two flavors, Sound Suppressors and Flash Suppressors.

Sound suppressors (commonly referred to as silencers) are regulated under the NFA. Most states allow them if the NFA rules are followed.

Flash suppressors (ala M-16, HK-91, M1A) redirect the flame in a way that is intended to make the shooter less visible to the enemy. There is some argument about whether or not they actually reduce the visible signature. Ever notice that the military does not put flash suppressors on sniper rifles? If they truly reduce the visible signature, you would think all sniper rifles would have them.

Redarrow18 08-09-2010 03:30 PM

a lil more bang won't hurt to bad, i wear ear proctection so.
well where i live unfortunately i believe sound suppressors are illegal :eek:
so it is possible to put a muzzle break on a non threaded rifle?

IGETEVEN 08-09-2010 03:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Redarrow18 (Post 328615)
So it is possible to put a muzzle break on a non threaded rifle?

Yes, they make clamp on muzzle breaks, or you can have your barrel muzzle threaded.

robocop10mm 08-09-2010 04:20 PM

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Originally Posted by Redarrow18 (Post 328615)
a lil more bang won't hurt to bad, i wear ear proctection so.
well where i live unfortunately i believe sound suppressors are illegal :eek:
so it is possible to put a muzzle break on a non threaded rifle?

It depends on the design of the brake. Some are very difficult to keep attached in a non-threaded application. Fire one round and the brake simply pops off.

stalkingbear 08-09-2010 04:42 PM

Here's a tunable muzzlebreak that attaches by means of collet. You don't need to thread the barrel for this 1. The nice thing about this muzzlebreak is you can tune it just like a Browning BOSS. That provides tighter groups in addition to the reduced recoil.

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Redarrow18 08-10-2010 02:28 AM

would it be cheaper or more benifical to get the rifle threaded and buy a break or to just get one that doesn't need a threaded barrel?

random question, what is a "bull barrel"?

c3shooter 08-10-2010 11:39 AM

Bull barrel means a heavy, larger diameter barrel. And the device is a muzzle BRAKE. Brake- as in slowing. Unless your rifle is damaged in some way, it will not have a muzzle BREAK.

Ruzai 08-11-2010 12:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Redarrow18 (Post 328969)
would it be cheaper or more benifical to get the rifle threaded and buy a break or to just get one that doesn't need a threaded barrel?

random question, what is a "bull barrel"?

Depends on what type of rifle it is. AK-47, m-16, and Ak-74 muzzle brakes are easy to get a hold of pretty much anywere in the US, but something a bit differnt like a BAR hunting rifle would be a lot harder to put a muzzle brake on and would pretty much be useless on a hunting gun, thus the reason there isnt usually one.
Sure you can get a rifle like a BAR Safari fitted for a muzzle brake but be prepared to shell out the green for the custom work from a good gunsmith.
Is there a particular rifle (or set of rifles) you have in mind, or are you just generally curious about the muzzle brake scene?

P.S. Thanks c3shooter, i cant stand when people refer to them as "break" instead of "brake" the grammar freak in my head has a fit just about every time they use the wrong one :D

Redarrow18 08-11-2010 08:12 PM

i am curisous about the whole scene and im looking too try one on a 30-06, it doesnt have a threaded barrel so i was wondering if i could still get one or not. plus i think they look very cool


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