sorry that would have helped. I returned the sling. It didn't fit my needs, and I wasn't sure of what my needs were. It's a primarily HD weapon, and will be used for tactical target practice. Also as my back up in case I ever have to grab my "bug out bag" and go. I searched online for a while and ended up ordering the spectergear 3 point sling. It should do the job fine i think, especially because the sling can mount to the side of the barrel and not the bottom. Thanks Ill post photos when it's ready!