Originally Posted by cheezburger
Umm dude if you are on the grid ie: cell phones, own fire arms, credit cards, face book, pay taxes, have obozo care( no choice in that matter) or on this forum. I hate to break it to you, they already are in control. I needed a safe that was compact for a few guns. The price was right, in a capitalist, i work and earn money, so i bought it.
It`s not about beeing in control of anybody, it`s about offering those who are against legal firearm ownership reasons and arguments for presenting their poison!
I also work for a living and have to save for everything I want to buy. I am also not the donkey, where you can pull his tail and he craps gold nugets.
But there is one thing I have learned in the last few years, where gun grabbers have been trying to eliminate legal gunownership and sportsshooting here in germany and that is not to buy stuff they can use against you as an argument.
We have already lost enough rights as it is.
Also I find it a bit strange, just as winds-of-change stated, that you buy a safe and then ask about opinions, instead of asking and then deciding what to buy.
It`s only normal, when you just purchased something, that you will argue for it and common sense normally is turned off at that time.
It`s the same as buying a new pistol and then asking if it is a good one!
Of course it`s your own busines, what type of gun safe you buy. In my opinion gun safes are a good thing, because they can keep the firearms out of reach of those, who shouldn`t get access to them.
But it is also my opinion, if you decide to buy a gun safe, you should do it right and get one, that will also offer the amount of security needed.
The biometric lock has, next the the insecuritry, on major issue and that is the emergency key lock using a round key.
Those locks can be opend, and I am not joking, we tried it at work, with a peace of card board or a pen. The turorial how to do it, can be found on youtube, like here:
The type lock in the electronic lock is the same as in a Kensington Notebook lock.
Having an emergency key lock allways leaves you with the question, where to put the two emergency keys.
Secure electronic lock, no matter if with a pin code or biometric have the possibility to place a bettery on the outside, incase the battery on the inside is empty, like this one:http://www.m-locks.com/products/catalog/de2010?fp=22
I don`t mean to offend you, it os only my opinion, if you do it, do it right.
Here is a gun safe with the lowest protection permitted here in germany for rifles. Pistols are not allowed, unless there is a inside safe with the next higher protection.http://www.waffenschrank24.de/Waffenschraenke/Sicherheitsstufe-A/Waffenschrank-Format-WF-103-fuer-3-Langwaffen.html
This one would allow rifles and up to five revolvers or pistols:http://www.waffenschrank24.de/Waffenschraenke/Sicherheitsstufe-A-B/Waffenschrank-Format-WF-1500-5-B-fuer-5-Langwaffen---bis-zu-1-2-Kurzwaffen.html