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Secondhand_Hero 02-26-2012 10:04 PM

Flash suppressors vs. sound suppressors
 
Okay, so i've been informed by a couple of you that sound suppressors add a bit of reduced recoil to firearms, and also know that they give moderate reduction of muzzle flashes. i'm already aware of flash suppressors' slight increase in accuracy to numerous weapons (assault rifles/carbines in particular).. But what i want to know is what would be the overall best to pick from? i know everything has its purpose, but it seems that silencers are great for cqc whereas flash suppressors would be optimal for longer distances? If it makes a difference i'd also like to know for similar scenarios between mid-range carbine/assault rifles (ie: ar-15/m-16/ak-47) vs long range (sniper) rifles (ie: CheyTak M200/ H&K PSG-1/ M40A3). i'm not looking for circumstances for each weapon, just giving an idea of what kind of ranged weapons i'm talking about.

trip286 02-26-2012 10:21 PM

As you seem to be thinking, it really has a lot to do with the application.

I think if I could pick just one, and apply it to all my guns, I'd take a sound suppressor. I haven't taken a shot greater than 100 yards in a while, and earplugs are uncomfortable. So a suppressor would just serve me better, on my rifles and my pistol.

CHLChris 02-26-2012 10:24 PM

Yeah, if they weren't $500 each, thanks to regulations.

canebrake 02-26-2012 10:32 PM

Well know this, each suppressor will require a $200 Fed Tax Stamp requiring tons of traceable gub-er-mint paper work. (NFA requirements)

Depending on what state you live in you may be able to mail-order any flash hider you want.

If its going on an AR you should look at the Smith Enterprise Vortex Flash Eliminator or the BattleComp 2.0 SVC.

Greg_E 02-26-2012 10:35 PM

Flash suppressors are a dime a dozen and can be purchased over the Internet, but a silencer will cost $200 and 4 months just to get the tax stamp to purchase one. You also have to live in a state where they are legal to own. There are many more manufacturers now, so prices are a bit lower. If you want to suppress a handgun up to a .45, you are looking at about $1000. If you want to suppress a .223 or 5.56, or a .308 or 7.62, you can almost triple that. The noise reduction isn't like in the movies and it's a ton of paperwork just to get started. By the way, NEVER ATTEMPT TO BUILD YOUR OWN SILENCER UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO 10 YEARS IN A FEDERAL PEN!

Secondhand_Hero 02-26-2012 10:39 PM

Yes, i'm well aware of federal regs and taxes up the.. well, you know. But yeah, i was actually thinking of attaching to a custom AR type build, as of right now i'm just trying to find what i can so i have a better idea of exactly what i want. The rifle comparison was more of to better educate myself versus the assault rifle was actually knowledge i plan to apply.

Secondhand_Hero 02-26-2012 10:42 PM

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Originally Posted by Greg_E
Flash suppressors are a dime a dozen and can be purchased over the Internet, but a silencer will cost $200 and 4 months just to get the tax stamp to purchase one. You also have to live in a state where they are legal to own. There are many more manufacturers now, so prices are a bit lower. If you want to suppress a handgun up to a .45, you are looking at about $1000. If you want to suppress a .223 or 5.56, or a .308 or 7.62, you can almost triple that. The noise reduction isn't like in the movies and it's a ton of paperwork just to get started. By the way, NEVER ATTEMPT TO BUILD YOUR OWN SILENCER UNLESS YOU WANT TO DO 10 YEARS IN A FEDERAL PEN!

Wow, i didn't know that last part! i was aware of the rest (prices had a vague idea), but federal offense to make a silencer? i hadn't even thought of that! And to think a few years ago a friend of mine had made his own silencer in a highschool metalshop class!

Greg_E 02-26-2012 11:26 PM

Yeah, they are considered Class 3 equipment just like machine guns. They are legal to own in some states, but that is why you have to do all the paperwork and background checks. The application even has to be signed by the Chief Law Enforcement Officer or CLEO of the County you live in. When you do get all the paperwork back you have to have it with the weapon or silencer at all times. Play safe!

Secondhand_Hero 02-27-2012 12:09 AM

But alas, we are getting off of the topic! Which would you consider to be more optimal for both combat readiness and applicability? And what about cqc (close quarters) versus a fair distance (say, 95-115 yards)?

trip286 02-27-2012 12:14 AM

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Originally Posted by Secondhand_Hero
But alas, we are getting off of the topic! Which would you consider to be more optimal for both combat readiness and applicability? And what about cqc (close quarters) versus a fair distance (say, 95-115 yards)?

In both of those situations, I'd rather have a suppressor. That's just my opinion.


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