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Old 12-05-2013, 03:24 AM   #1
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Who's got the firsthand experience with them? Does it mount well? Is it floppy? I'm looking to chest mount my pistol.

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Old 12-05-2013, 04:52 AM   #2
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I have never seen one mounted on someones chest. But I own one for my 1911. I use it for my Citadeland my Ruger. To me it is a top notch product. I use it for IDPA competition. It is rock solid. It does not flop around at all. It is hard plastic. It holds the gun securely until you need it. Then it is out quick...really quick. I would buy more. But I am left handed. The only one they make for any of my guns in left hand is the 1911.

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Old 12-05-2013, 05:15 AM   #3
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I have one for a G19 and a 2 1/2" Judge. They definitely work well. There is a better option now IMO, the Safariland ALS. I have one (hopefully) being delivered tomorrow for my G19.

The problems I see with the Serpa that have been addressed with the ALS are:

1) Your trigger finger releases the weapon and could cause a ND.

2) Grit, dirt, and/or debri could become lodged behind the release paddle, leaving you with a weapon that can't be released from the holster.

3) When trying to release the weapon, it's pretty easy to hit the opposite side of the paddle. This only slows you a second or two, but seconds count in an armed encounter.

4) They are a PITA compared to a ALS to get on and get off. The ALS is available with QLS (Quick Locking System). The QLS can be belt or paddle worn. The holster slides onto it and locks in place. If you need to take off the weapon, the QLS just looks like an empty cell phone holder.

I've used a Serpa for my G19 for about 4 years when the weather is cold. Most months it's too bulky, I'm in Florida. I haven't worn the ALS yet, but when it arrives tomorrow I'll be wearing it. I'll make a post or update here when I've worn it enough to fairly evaluate it against the Serpa.

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The ALS system looks like a safer system. I have Serpa IIs and realize to be careful presenting. The ALS system uses a thumb release, rather than the Trigger finger.

Your handgun should stay in your holster 99.9% of the time, so the Serpa is safe most always. It is the .01% I worry about with students using a Serpa.

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the first time you need to go prone in a hurry your going to instantly realize just how stupid putting a holster on your chest is.

its great for bad tv but highly impractical in rl.

ive got a serpa for my 1911 owb carry. its ok but im not a fan of the locking system. they arent floppy at all.

two issues with it. rare circumstances you can get debris in the lock mechanism and then have to cut the gun out of the holster. second is its easy to get your finger into the trigger guard on the draw if you dont practice A LOT. so under stress or in a big hurry it increases the chances of a nd on draw.

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I have to agree with JonM. If you need to carry the gun high on your body get a shoulder holster. Even if you don't use the shoulder holster all the time they are nice in the winter.

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the first time you need to go prone in a hurry your going to instantly realize just how stupid putting a holster on your chest is.
Why would he ever need to go prone? Not exactly something that happens in most people's lives that much.
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To answer your question the Blackhawk SERPA holster is not floppy and works great with chest piece. A lot of the guys I deployed with bought them. Never fell off or anything. Good luck!

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Why would he ever need to go prone? Not exactly something that happens in most people's lives that much.
It may not happen, but it should. Famous and best advice...."Duck sucker".
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The Serpa is one of the most poorly thought out holsters in history. They have a propensity for spawning ND's. You press in with your trigger finger while drawing. The trigger finger slides effortlessly into the trigger guard the gun clears the holster. The trigger finger then depresses the trigger and BANG, you have a new hole in your leg.

Many shooting schools now band their use. My agency has now banned their use. You can do MUCH better. ALS, Hogue, Fobus, even Uncle Mikes are superior to the Serpa.

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