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Old 04-20-2012, 12:27 PM   #11
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My thumb pulling the hammer back is no more difficult than my thumb bringing the safety down. It's just one of those things that doesn't make sense to me. Someone please tell me why it's better to be cocked and locked.
Reason being is cocking the hammer with the firing hand does chanhe your grip. What you do smoothly in a stress free environmemt is extremely difficult if not impossible to do under life and death stress.

Its pithy to say that and if you havent been in a position where someone is doing their level best from 6feet away or less to kill you its hard to convey the difference.

Cocking a hammer with the off hand is actually thecorrect way to do it.

Anyway you can do what you want its your life your putting at risk training with a flawed method. Long asyour not teaching anyone else to do it its just yourself your risking and thats your business.
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I can kind of see that IF you cock it with the left thumb -
No way i can cock & keep gun on target near as well as i can just "thumbing" the safety down -
That says it all.
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I carry a USP .40 variant 1, sa/da manual safety and decocker in condition 2, only have to thumb down the safety ( which is a natural movement and doesn't comprimise grip or target sight) and fire from da. Now if my gun were sao I would definitely carry cocked and locked.

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I carry my Glock with a round in the chamber. No safety except for the trigger safety which isn't really a safety. I know many people who carry their Springfield XDs and glocks like this.

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I carry my Glock with a round in the chamber. No safety except for the trigger safety which isn't really a safety. I know many people who carry their Springfield XDs and glocks like this.
different platform with different safety blocks.
(This is the 1911 forum)
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"I would strongly agree that a single action gun without a firing pin block (safety) should not be carried with a round in the chamber and the hammer down. Without the block in place, the hammer movement could cause the gun to fire even the trigger wasn’t pulled."
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"More natural"...not to me. Maybe because I practice my draw by pulling the hammer back after I'm on target. I don't increase my speed by putting the safety down instead. They are both a single movement of the thumb. I've never seen anyone twist the gun because they're pulling the hammer back, and pulling it back with the support hand...well that's just silly.
To me, using the thumb of the firing hand (assuming that's the one you're using) requires two movements: 1) cock hammer 2) place thumb on grip. Because I don't want to leave my thumb on the hammer when I pull the trigger.

The act of flipping the safety off places my thumb right where I want it for firing. Though If you prefer a grip with your thumb curled down, you're looking at two movements either way.
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Many, many people have carried the 1911 "cocked and locked." Maybe Hoss just has his ol' hoglegs in mind. Some people just find carrying "cocked and locked" scary. I myself carry my 1911's "cocked and locked" while hunting. I sometimes carry my CZ 75B and Browning Hi-Power this way. I actually hate shooting an auto in DA mode. Hence the reason I don't care for ANY striker fired pistol.

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Wow gang, that's the things I needed to hear. You have convinced me that "hammer down" is in fact the more dangerous way to go. I am going cocked and locked from this point on. Many GOOD comments. Not too proud to learn something. I just needed it explained in detail, and that you did.Thanks again.

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