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Old 06-10-2012, 01:31 AM   #41
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I carry cocked and locked with my 1911. I used to carry a gun with a decocker and I was not accurate with that long first pull as on subsequent shots. I probably could have improved that with more training but I find the thumb safety much more convenient. I will never again carry a gun without a thumb safety as I consider it an essential safety feature for me that has become second nature. To each his own. As to the starting question as to why the1911 does have a decocker, well it wasn't designed to have one. JMB was told to develop a pistol that included a grip safety and a thumb safety....and that is what he did.

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Okay, I understand that a decocker puts a DA/SA back into DA mode, which is it's form of safety. I also understand that on a SAO, you don't have much use for it because of external safety such as the manual and beaver tail. This still doesn't explain the platform having both a manual and a beaver tail when the latter is essentially retard proof. In the rare occasion that you need to lower the hammer with a round in the chamber, wouldn't it come in handy? Like I said, can't ever recall using the safety on a 1911. Sometimes I think it's there for decorations or to annoy left handed people into buying a ambi.
I think you just explained you really don't understand the 1911 platform
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Besides, we all know perfection was achieved by the Great John Moses Browning in the year of 1910...which was patented in 1911...
Right guy...wrong year, the year was 1914 when perfection was achieved....with the Hi Power
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Anyone who refers to a 1911 grip safety as a "Bever Tail Safety" needs more training in semi-auto handguns. The manual safety allows for the carriage of a pistol in condition one. The Colt is carried hot with the hammer at full cock and safety engaged. The grip safety makes the gun safe if the shooter drops the weapon or other wise has a loss of control over the weapon. The Colt 1911 pistol was designed to replace the Colt SAA revolver for horse mounted Cavalry Units. The pistol was secured to the rider with a lanyard and was often drop to the lanyard in order to control the mount. The grip safety would over ride the cock and locked sidearm. The rider could retrieve his 1911 and with a secured grip could engage the powerful .45 ACP. The same procedures used by the Cavalry can be applied today with modern combat shooters. If you really own a 1911 you need to study the arm and get some Inst. before you shoot your knee cap off.

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Right guy...wrong year, the year was 1914 when perfection was achieved....with the Hi Power
Well...even JMB supposedly said that the hi power was the only way he could improve the 1911, or something along those lines...
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thank you FMJ. like the old saying goes, " if ain't broke, don't fix it! " the 1911 ain't broke, it don't need fixing. it is perfect just the way it was designed.
Not a problem brother...perfection is just that.

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Can I please get someone in here who thinks of JMB less like Jesus and more like a good gun designer?
NOPE!! Because when it comes to gun designs JMB IS GOD!!! PERIOD!! End of Discussion.

1911

BAR

1919

Ithica 37

.35 Remington

To name a few of the longest lasting and/or iconic gun designs in American history

and the list goes on and on and on.....

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This question is quickly answered and doesnt need several pages of debate. JMB didnt design the 1911 with a decocker "100 years ago" BECAUSE IT DOESNT NEED ONE. 101 years later,IT STILL DOESNT NEED ONE.
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Can will be along to refute it if I am wrong, but seems I heard that JMB added the thumb safety by request from the army/calvary?
I do believe...(and i could be wrong, i often am) but i do believe in its original format the 1911 did not have the beaver tail safety grip. The "beaver tail" was later designed in. In the original layout the webbing of the thumb often got caught in the slide. so the now iconic "beaver tail" was added to keep the webbing of the hand in place while firing.
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I think I might stick with SIGs and CZs from now on. Even the 1911 people are scary.

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