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Kenney 06-09-2012 03:57 PM

Why aren't 1911s fitted with a decocker instead of a manual safety?
 
Never in my life do I recall using the safety on a 1911 with a beaver tail safety. Could someone just explain this to me?

HOSSFLY 06-09-2012 04:01 PM

Guess because JMB did'nt want one-
Never used a manual safety :confused:

cuba 06-09-2012 04:20 PM

Maybe you need to learn a little more about the platform because the grip safety is automatically activated when picking up the pistol and the thumb safety is there to keep you safe while carrying in holster or until needed.

shoot safe, shoot straight, and have fun

Sonic82 06-09-2012 04:41 PM

I'm not a SA 1911 guy...but I believe a decocker only works with a DA pistol. By design it won't work with a SA only pistol. Double Action, by definition is cocking the hammer by pulling the trigger. Please correct me if I'm wrong on that. And it's just plain safer to use the thumb safety, while carrying on a hair trigger SA pistol. If you decock a SA pistol you will have to rack the slide again to put the gun in battery. Decocking a DA pistol still allows firing the gun. An XD gets away with just the grip safety because of it's longer, Glock style pull.

Here's a DA/SA simulator...operate the decocker and see how it works:
http://www.genitron.com/basics/beretta92/new-beretta-92.html

Here's a SA simulator:

While you're at it, operate a striker fired pistol:
http://www.genitron.com/Basics/Glock23/P2Glock.html

gollygee 06-09-2012 05:54 PM

I carry my 1911s 'cocked & locked' so no need to decock it. :)

MrWray 06-09-2012 06:51 PM

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1911s dont need no stinking de-cocker!

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Kenney 06-09-2012 07:28 PM

Okay, I understand that a decocker puts a DA/SA back into DA mode, which is it's form of safety. I also understand that on a SAO, you don't have much use for it because of external safety such as the manual and beaver tail. This still doesn't explain the platform having both a manual and a beaver tail when the latter is essentially retard proof. In the rare occasion that you need to lower the hammer with a round in the chamber, wouldn't it come in handy? Like I said, can't ever recall using the safety on a 1911. Sometimes I think it's there for decorations or to annoy left handed people into buying a ambi.

Axxe55 06-09-2012 07:29 PM

if you picked up a 1911 and shot it, then you used the grip safety. the 1911 is perfect the way it was designed and therefor doesn't need a decocker.

Kenney 06-09-2012 07:35 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axxe55
if you picked up a 1911 and shot it, then you used the grip safety. the 1911 is perfect the way it was designed and therefor doesn't need a decocker.

I meant the manual safety.

fmj 06-09-2012 08:08 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by axxe55 (Post 830490)
if you picked up a 1911 and shot it, then you used the grip safety. the 1911 is perfect the way it was designed and therefor doesn't need a decocker.

Cannot improve upon perfection!!!

EVERY semi auto pistol to come after 1911 is some attempt to improve on perfection....ALL have failed!


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