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Old 04-30-2014, 11:36 AM   #21
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The Kimber Stainless Target is a great gun for under $1k. I bought a lightly used 9mm for $850 and a brand new 10mm for $975. Both guns were tight and accurate. I think that the best gun if you are looking for a dedicated target 1911 for the range. It all depends on your intended purpose though. It would make a poor self defense or home defense gun.
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To Olympus,,,why would they make poor home and self defense guns??///
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To Olympus,,,why would they make poor home and self defense guns??///
Target guns usually have target sights with lots of sharp corners and such to snag on your clothes, holster, etc. Google Bomar sights.

HD/SD guns tend to have lower profile sights, Google Novak sights.

It is not a reliability issue necessarily.
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Target guns usually have target sights with lots of sharp corners and such to snag on your clothes, holster, etc. Google Bomar sights.

HD/SD guns tend to have lower profile sights, Google Novak sights.

It is not a reliability issue necessarily.
Just another reason to buy more guns.

Like Gator stated, the target sights have sharper corners and will snag on clothing and the sights are flat black so they would be difficult to see at night. Also, target sights have a larger front post to fill the notch in the rear sight for increased accuracy. They make it difficult to quickly acquire a target.

Here's a comparison-
Combat (Novak's) on the left and target sights on the right.



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Just like the other members have shown you. The target sights on the Kimbers are a black front and a black rear. In a home defense scenario, you're likely going to be in a low light scenario. You won't be able to see the sights. That's why night sights were invented. You don't use night sights for a target gun and you don't use target sights on a defensive gun. Different guns are designed for different purposes.


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Sights were either black or white for many years. People managed to shoot well at night. I have no idea of how many pests I have killed with a flashlight in my hand while I was shooting the gun. When I was a kid I held a light for my Grandmother to kill an armadillo that was digging up her roses. She had no problems with a black pistol that had black iron sights on it. She popped the armadillo right in the head. Night sights make life easier but they aren't the be all to end all.
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Sights were either black or white for many years. People managed to shoot well at night. I have no idea of how many pests I have killed with a flashlight in my hand while I was shooting the gun. When I was a kid I held a light for my Grandmother to kill an armadillo that was digging up her roses. She had no problems with a black pistol that had black iron sights on it. She popped the armadillo right in the head. Night sights make life easier but they aren't the be all to end all.
if there are better options, why not take advantage of them?

for many years people used longer barreled shotguns too. but if a person is looking for something for a specific purpose or use, why not get something that fills those needs the best?

if i were buying a hunting shotgun, i am more than likely going for one that is suited for hunting and for SD the same thing. i learned a long time ago to buy the proper tool for the job requirement. you tend to get better results when you use the proper tool for the intended job.
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if there are better options, why not take advantage of them?

for many years people used longer barreled shotguns too. but if a person is looking for something for a specific purpose or use, why not get something that fills those needs the best?

if i were buying a hunting shotgun, i am more than likely going for one that is suited for hunting and for SD the same thing. i learned a long time ago to buy the proper tool for the job requirement. you tend to get better results when you use the proper tool for the intended job.
Agreed! You can certainly "make do" with a lot of things, but I'd much rather have the right tool for the job. If you can only afford one gun, then a person would have to make compromises. But in this case, it doesn't seem like that's necessary for the OP.
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Agreed! You can certainly "make do" with a lot of things, but I'd much rather have the right tool for the job. If you can only afford one gun, then a person would have to make compromises. But in this case, it doesn't seem like that's necessary for the OP.
exactly! besides, it's not like i need an excuse to buy more tools!
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Not for nuthin' but the Colt 1911A1 stainless steel

model is right around 1000$ new, right now...
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