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Old 06-04-2012, 12:51 AM   #1
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Now I really want to apologize before-hand for any uproar made by this question that Im sure many will find ridiculous. I am fairly new to guns, so for me it is a legitimate question. What is it about 1911s that makes them a 1911. As in, what separates a 1911 from other semi automatic hand guns? Is it the mechanics? The style? Is it just a brand? Again sorry for the ignorance, i just dont know.

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1 - they are 45ACP caliber.

2 - they are single action not double nor double-and-single.

3 - they have an exposed hammer not hidden like the glock clones.

4 - they have a grip safety.

5 - they have a safety switch.

6 - for the purists they would have to say Colt or Springfield on them.

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The look of a 1911 is an iconic image and was a long standing service pistol. With the beaver tail and and exposed hammer unlike glocks and xd's etc. They have exceptional quality and can with stand about anything you through at them!

"The M1911 is a single-action, semi-automatic, magazine-fed, recoil-operated handgun chambered for the .45 ACP cartridge,[1] which served as the standard-issue side arm for the United States armed forces from 1911 to 1985. It was widely used in World War I, World War II, the Korean War, and the Vietnam War. The M1911 is still carried by some U.S. forces. Its formal designation as of 1940 was Automatic Pistol, Caliber .45, M1911 for the original Model of 1911 or Automatic Pistol, Caliber .45, M1911A1 for the M1911A1, adopted in 1924. The designation changed to Pistol, Caliber .45, Automatic, M1911A1 in the Vietnam era.In total, the United States procured around 2.7 million M1911 and M1911A1 pistols in military contracts during its service life. The M1911 was replaced by the M9 pistol as the standard U.S. sidearm in the early 1990s.

The military mandated a grip safety and a manual safety. A grip safety, sear disconnect, slide stop, half cock position, and manual safety (located on the left rear of the frame) are on all standard M1911A1s. Several companies have developed a firing pin block safety. Colt's 80 series uses a trigger operated one and several other manufacturers, including Kimber and Smith & Wesson, use a Swartz firing-pin safety, which is operated by the grip safety."

check it out more here http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/1911_pistol

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By conforming (mostly) to the design laid out by John M. Browning and manufactured originally by Colt for the army approved in 1911. One could argue that the GI version is the purist form of the design. As time has passed many changes have been added. Some to allegedly improve safety (Colt Series 80 update and others). Others to improve accuracy of the shooter & the gun itself (adjustable sights, match triggers, Match grade barrels & bushings). I could go on. Much in the way the AR-15 has evolved to suit different needs, while still being recognizable as an AR-15, so too has the 1911 evolved to become more things to more people.
As to caliber, .45 acp is the traditional/original chambering. Colt also chambered it in .38 super back in the 30s IIRC. 9 mm, .40, 10 mm & so forth are all Johnny-come-lately's by comparison.

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1 - they are 45ACP caliber.

2 - they are single action not double nor double-and-single.

3 - they have an exposed hammer not hidden like the glock clones.

4 - they have a grip safety.

5 - they have a safety switch.

6 - for the purists they would have to say Colt or Springfield on them.
While not a traditional 1911.

1.There are 9mm and 38 super 1911s.

2.There are double action 1911s.

3.Double action 1911s dont have an exposed hammer.

4.Yup, they all have grip safeties as far as I know.

5. Some Double action 1911s dont have a manual safety.

6. Pretty much, or Ithaca or Remington Rand.

I swear I'm not trying to be an @ss. Just sharing info.

A 1911 is any firearm who's major components are interchangeable with the original Browning design.

Like llama pistols, they look like 1911s, but they dont interchange, so they aren't really 1911s.
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Thank you all for the insight.

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The 1911 is also a pistol that can be totally taken apart without special tools. Many polymer pistols are not nearly at the same ease of disassembly.

It is hard to describe the self-satisfaction of taking apart a steel pistol to all of its parts and reassemble them without much difficulty.

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Now I really want to apologize before-hand for any uproar made by this question that Im sure many will find ridiculous. I am fairly new to guns, so for me it is a legitimate question. What is it about 1911s that makes them a 1911. As in, what separates a 1911 from other semi automatic hand guns? Is it the mechanics? The style? Is it just a brand? Again sorry for the ignorance, i just don't know.
Spend a day with one and fire a couple hundred round though it and it will become obvious to you why they are considered one of the best pistol ever made.

The 1911 is an engineering marvel thats been ahead of the times for over 100 years, sorta like the combustible engine.

shoot safe, shoot straight, and have fun.
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The 1911 is also a pistol that can be totally taken apart without special tools. Many polymer pistols are not nearly at the same ease of disassembly.

It is hard to describe the self-satisfaction of taking apart a steel pistol to all of its parts and reassemble them without much difficulty.
I do know what you mean about that. Ive got a S&W 645 that is similar to a 1911 i suppose, but i can easily spend 4 hours cleaning. But i enjoy every minute of it.
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While not a traditional 1911.

1.There are 9mm and 38 super 1911s.

2.There are double action 1911s.

3.Double action 1911s dont have an exposed hammer.

4.Yup, they all have grip safeties as far as I know.

5. Some Double action 1911s dont have a manual safety.

6. Pretty much, or Ithaca or Remington Rand.

I swear I'm not trying to be an @ss. Just sharing info.

A 1911 is any firearm who's major components are interchangeable with the original Browning design.

Like llama pistols, they look like 1911s, but they dont interchange, so they aren't really 1911s.
If you say so, Komrad Sputnik. But mine that was issued to me was as I described it. For me that was during cold war days between Viet Nam and Lebanon. Our only significant opponent then was the Union of Soviet Socialist Republics and her fleet.
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