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Old 11-11-2012, 03:04 AM   #31
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So does the Browning HiPower fall anywhere in there on this ever elusive and exclusive slippery scale you all use?
Nope. But its a fine firearm!
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So does the Browning HiPower fall anywhere in there on this ever elusive and exclusive slippery scale you all use?
The BHP is a double stack with a pivot trigger, not even close but it does have JMB genes.
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Nope. But its a fine firearm!
Looks almost identical to me, aside from a really ugly handle/grip. Interesting. So it's not even a "pattern" then huh?
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The Hipower is where Browning improved on some of the design of the 1911. He got rid of the grip safety. Got rid of the weak links of the swinging link and removeable barrel bushing. Then developed the staggered mag and a good fitting grip around it. He did unfortunately lose the sweet trigger of the 1911 types.
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Looks almost identical to me, aside from a really ugly handle/grip. Interesting. So it's not even a "pattern" then huh?
not for sure how you can say they are almost identical.
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The Hipower is where Browning improved on some of the design of the 1911. He got rid of the grip safety. Got rid of the weak links of the swinging link and removeable barrel bushing. Then developed the staggered mag and a good fitting grip around it. He did unfortunately lose the sweet trigger of the 1911 types.
Very interesting. I'll have to look more closely at the safeties of each. Hadn't realized the two differed.
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not for sure how you can say they are almost identical.
Not sure how you can't. You're just someone who's used to looking at them more than I. I've only ever seen pictures. When I look at these pictures I see severe similarity. Of course unlike you all, my eye is severely untrained. Hahaha

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Some people get super technical about the definition, but "1911" seems to be a broad term nowadays. More technically, it would be a 1911A1, or a 1991A1 etc. Is a gun with a firing pin block really a 1911? That's up to someones' perspective I guess.......all i know, is I like the ones without them damn firing pin blocks!
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maybe the way to describe them is to say they are based off JMB M1911 platform and have evolved with the changes in shooters and technology.

as there have been some minor and major changes in the platform over the years. my opinion as to what makes a copy of the 1911 to be valid is interchangeability in parts from one maker to the next. this is simply my interpretation of the 1911 platform.
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maybe the way to describe them is to say they are based off JMB M1911 platform and have evolved with the changes in shooters and technology.

as there have been some minor and major changes in the platform over the years. my opinion as to what makes a copy of the 1911 to be valid is interchangeability in parts from one maker to the next. this is simply my interpretation of the 1911 platform.
I accept that opinion as rational seeming and agree, upon its validity as such.
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