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Old 11-11-2012, 12:28 AM   #11
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So for you it has to meet the precise specifications and measurements of the original 1911? So if someone mods their original 1911 to alter any of these specifications it would no lonher be considered a 1911? What if a manufacturer did it?
A true "1911" is what Cane described...over the years the name has evolved to describe an entire sub-group of handgun models based on the original JMB design. Sorta like the PC, technically the only true PC was manufactured by IBM but an unlimited number of clones now own the market.
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some very interesting opinions on this here subject. just wanted to post so as to soak up some information.



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Damn Cane...that's a museum quality piece, yours?
Yes it's my Colt Model O1911ANVIII a replica of the Colt 1918. (Unfired)









That's a photo of it! Yes, it's that good looking!
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Depends on how specific you want to be.

A 1911 would be the model of automatic pistol that Colt began manufacturing in 1911, designed by John Browning mostly by 1909. The 1911A1 featured a few changes in mainspring housing, grip safety, thumb safety, trigger and hammer spur.

Key features would be the detatchable barrel bushing, swinging link, single action trigger, grip safety, and additional thumb safety. The entire pistol as originally designed could be disassembled using only the parts of the pistol itself.

Fast forward and things have changed. Some manufacturers have utilized external extractors, done away with barrel bushings, made full length guide rods, ambidextrous safeties, beavertail grip safeties, dovetailed sights, extended and flared mag wells, etc, etc...
Exactly, 1911 seems to've become more of a concept than a tangible item.
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absolutely beautiful looking pistol! perfection!



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Please do not confuse a "1911 pistol" with a "1911 pattern pistol".

It's easy to do.

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Wowwww cane....that things jaw dropping.

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Please do not confuse a "1911 pistol" with a "1911 pattern pistol".

It's easy to do.
Pattern? Difference?
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Pattern? Difference?
Look at pattern as.... Looks like a 1911.my heinie 10mm looks like a 1911 but....it has a 6" slide and its 10mm
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