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Old 12-12-2011, 03:26 AM   #21
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I have had 3 1911's 2 kimbers a springfield. I love the 2 kimbers they are built so smooth and feel like cut no corners when they built them! The springfield just felt so cheap compared to the kimbers and less accurate ao i sold it
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I have had 3 1911's 2 kimbers a springfield. I love the 2 kimbers they are built so smooth and feel like cut no corners when they built them! The springfield just felt so cheap compared to the kimbers and less accurate ao i sold it
i have owned several SA's over the years and have found them to be well made, accurate and reliable. i seem to hear more conflicting stories about the Kimber's though. i have owned over twenty different 1911's over the years and have shot many more belonging to friends and have just recently purchased another SA, based on the fact that in the past, they were very well made pistols. and also plan on another SA!
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Old 12-15-2011, 12:23 AM   #23
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Tenntyrant, I think that you will find that your Glock23 will be significantly lighter then any original 1911 clone but the 1911 can be tamed by using a good belt and an inside the waist holster like the Super Tuck style. I also think that from the 1911 clones that are available today the one that offers the most bang for your buck is the stainless PT 1911, made from forged steel and loaded with all the bells and whistles, even though most of all the fire controls parts are made MIM parts Taurus is a leader in the MIM technology in the world, and also the third largest gun manufacture in the world and it comes with a lifetime guaranty MIM technology is like anything else when it was first introduce it had bugs that needed to be improved on, must gun manufacturers today are using MIM parts with the exception to the higher priced 1911 like Les Bear, Ed Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, thats if you want to pay over $1,500 on their low end models they are hand made and use bar-stock steel but that doesn't guaranty that their parts don't break.The only thing that I have found to be specific on the PT1911 is the dovetail cut on the slide for the sights, which come equipped with Heine straight eight sights or Novak's. From first hand experience I bought my PT1911 in 2008 for $549 dollars and I have put about a little over 14,000 rounds through it with out any parts failure with the exception of am-bi safety that were made incorrect on their first batch and did not lock together as they should, but I think thats been corrected since 2008 I don't hear about this failure any more, and though you'll read a lot off Taurus bashing on the INTERNET concerning their customer service all of my experience with them has been positive when my safety failed they sent me a well made one within 5 day, a couple month ago I called Taurus and spoke with a supervisor there named Chris and told him that I had a large round count through my PT1911 and that I probably needed to change out the springs and that I was concerned about the extractor rounding off, and he said not to worry about it that he would take care of it, a week later i received not only the new springs that is recoil, main,and firing spring but a new extractor and two fresh magazine, thats what I call excellent costumer service. So if you want a quality 1911 clone with all the bells and whistles at an affordable price backed by an exceptional company with a life time guaranty the PT1911 is the 1911 to consider.

PS. the PT1911 is also very accurate attached is a photo of a target that was shot at 20 yard from sand bag rest 14 rounds of Missouri lead 225 grain RNFP on top of 5 grains Red Dot reloads
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Tenntyrant, I think that you will find that your Glock23 will be significantly lighter then any original 1911 clone but the 1911 can be tamed by using a good belt and an inside the waist holster like the Super Tuck style. I also think that from the 1911 clones that are available today the one that offers the most bang for your buck is the stainless PT 1911, made from forged steel and loaded with all the bells and whistles, even though most of all the fire controls parts are made MIM parts Taurus is a leader in the MIM technology in the world, and also the third largest gun manufacture in the world and it comes with a lifetime guaranty MIM technology is like anything else when it was first introduce it had bugs that needed to be improved on, must gun manufacturers today are using MIM parts with the exception to the higher priced 1911 like Les Bear, Ed Brown, Wilson, Nighthawk, thats if you want to pay over $1,500 on their low end models they are hand made and use bar-stock steel but that doesn't guaranty that their parts don't break.The only thing that I have found to be specific on the PT1911 is the dovetail cut on the slide for the sights, which come equipped with Heine straight eight sights or Novak's. From first hand experience I bought my PT1911 in 2008 for $549 dollars and I have put about a little over 14,000 rounds through it with out any parts failure with the exception of am-bi safety that were made incorrect on their first batch and did not lock together as they should, but I think thats been corrected since 2008 I don't hear about this failure any more, and though you'll read a lot off Taurus bashing on the INTERNET concerning their customer service all of my experience with them has been positive when my safety failed they sent me a well made one within 5 day, a couple month ago I called Taurus and spoke with a supervisor there named Chris and told him that I had a large round count through my PT1911 and that I probably needed to change out the springs and that I was concerned about the extractor rounding off, and he said not to worry about it that he would take care of it, a week later i received not only the new springs that is recoil, main,and firing spring but a new extractor and two fresh magazine, thats what I call excellent costumer service. So if you want a quality 1911 clone with all the bells and whistles at an affordable price backed by an exceptional company with a life time guaranty the PT1911 is the 1911 to consider.
You make a compelling argument for the Taurus 1911. My dealer has one in stock that is beautiful and priced at $700. I could probably get it for $675 OTD. Might have to consider that after the new year.
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I have had a kimber pro carry II and it was the most jamming peace of junk. It had the external extractor I sent it back to kimber after 2 years of calling them. They replaced the slide with an internal extractor and I put a few hundred rounds thru it and traded it for a Taurus pt1911 aluminum frame and have had no problems at all I took all the internals out the other day and removed all the forge marks and trim areas ad did a full trigger job on it. It's better than ever now I love it. I also bought a Springfield Gi model the other day and couldnt be happier both are great guns. I'm not bashing kimber but I had a bad time with mine. Best of luck on your choice. Just be sure to shoot the snot out of it and enjoy.

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Most the time I carry a Para LTC.
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But do have a PT1911 that I like pretty well also.
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