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Old 03-07-2011, 04:18 AM   #21
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All of the numbers and yarns are fun to read. I can tell you for a fact when finishing off big game the little 9MM is a poor choice. This is a very poor killer on game over 30 lbs. The .45 ACP is very effective on game in the 100 to 200 lb range. The .44 Mag often has too much penetration and fails to do a good job on downed animals in the 100 lb range. That being said the .44 Mag is perfect on Elk and Moose sized animals. Use your little 9mm and .380s to shoot cans our anything that can't hurt you back.

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All of the numbers and yarns are fun to read. I can tell you for a fact when finishing off big game the little 9MM is a poor choice. This is a very poor killer on game over 30 lbs. The .45 ACP is very effective on game in the 100 to 200 lb range. The .44 Mag often has too much penetration and fails to do a good job on downed animals in the 100 lb range. That being said the .44 Mag is perfect on Elk and Moose sized animals. Use your little 9mm and .380s to shoot cans our anything that can't hurt you back.

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I don't want to get side tracked off of the 45's "whackability", but left over from my older than dirt days, I was always told/trained to carry a backup. I failed in my thinking that a 380 was adequate; it is not. Now, getting old enough that I do not care if I fart around the ladies, I suppose that with all the latest hype in 380s, I fell for it. The 380 is, and always has been, a ladies purse gun. It will do little good against an enranged drug user; outside of a rare and lucky brain shot.

Now, back to the 45 "horse-bringer-downer"..........
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The 22lr is a proven mankiller. More people die each year from 22lr than any other bullet. I trust my 380s because I know I can hit the x-ring quickly many times. I only carry one when I have to leave the 45s behind. If your going to carry a gun big enough for 9mm might as well tote the 45.

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Hmmmm... The .44 Special comes in third with Hatcher's formula, slightly outperforming the .45ACP and 10mm... and is only surpassed by the .44 Magnum and .41 Magnum. Clearly, size matters... I'm just thinkin' it's kinda odd how the .44 Special fell out of favor... A light .44 Special (like the Charter Arms 21 oz. Bulldog, for example) makes considerable carry sense according to these numbers. Interesting that more manufacturers aren't producing them.

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The 22lr is a proven mankiller. More people die each year from 22lr than any other bullet. I trust my 380s because I know I can hit the x-ring quickly many times. I only carry one when I have to leave the 45s behind. If your going to carry a gun big enough for 9mm might as well tote the 45.

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This may be one of those, "yeah, right!" stories, but I remember as a kid hearing a story about an elephant being killed, in a traveling circus, by a 22. The story goes that a kid carried his 22 into the circus (apparently - a LONG time ago), and just by happenstance, when the elephant opened/flapped his ears, the kid shot at it. Supposedly the bullet traveled through its ear canal, and penetrated its brain just enough to kill it. True or not, I don't know. Perhaps, it is one of those country legions.

But, my request is about the 45 ACP, and what you may know about its "EFFECTIVENESS" in real life shootings.
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Really? The 44 special is better than the 45 Colt/Long Colt? I find that hard to believe. It isn't as heavy or as fast. I know you didn't mention the 45 Colt but you did say the 44 special was only surpassed by the 44 and 41 mags. I don't see the 44 special out performing the 10mm either. Don't get me wrong I like the 44 special it's just not exactly a powerful round.

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All of the ballistics is interesting reading, and I'm not smart enough to dispute any of it. If I wanted to, which I don't. I will say that in my opinion, caliber can't even enter into the picture unless the shooter can put his/her shots on target. I've carried a 1911 for many, many years, and will continue to do so. It is very nice for us all to have a choice of carry caliber, but proficiency with a given caliber/platform has to come first.

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