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janie117 04-18-2012 02:57 PM

SW E series or Springfield Loaded?
I'm really torn between these two. I like the look of the SW better, but performance, and overall quality and build are first. I'll be using it for IDPA.

I would like detailed opinions. Not just 'go with the Springer' etc. I want to know why you would prefer one over the other from a perspective of quality of build and parts, shooting experience, and also how easy it is to get sights, trigger parts, etc. I've tried to do as much research as I can, and I'm also bugged about the external extractor thing. Is it really that bad to have?

Thanks in advance. I need to know the 'why' behind the opinions. I've shot an EMP and Kimber at the local range...but can't find anyone with one of either of my choices.

bartwatkins 04-18-2012 04:22 PM

Umm - all of the parts that you menation are pretty interchangable with any standard 1911 (ie..same exact design no matter the company that makes it). 1911's are maybe the most modified/changed up guns out there - so many different parts makers that spare parts will not be an issue with either guns.

One difference between the two you mention however, would be the extractor. S&W uses an external extractor (ie.. you can see it on the outside of the slide). Springfield and most other 1911 makers use an internal extractor. Neither would be better than the other from a functionality standpoint, but some 1911 "purists" cannot stomach an external extractor. It just comes down to looks really for this (or it does to me anyway).

I have a Springfield loaded. I have put a good many rounds through it (over 2000). It has been flawless. I have put a good many parts changes or upgrades to it as well. These include: MSH to add magwell (and remove the Springfield ILS), EGW barrel bushing, flat trigger, full ignition group (C&S super match trigger group - hammer, sear, disconnect, sear spring, MSH spring) and various grip changes. Right now, in process of changing out the sights to go to a plain rear with wide notch and FO front. You will have no issues with any parts you need (but that said, you will not have any issues in this regard with the S&W either).

I have no experience with the S&W E-series. Except reading about them & they seem to be excellent guns. They are hard to find around these parts. I have only ever seen one in person at a LGS. This would be a tough decision for me if both were in front of me (and I had it to do over again).

Hope that helps....

limbkiller 04-18-2012 10:09 PM

Your choice as both guns are really good guns. I won't own a 1911 with the external extractor so the loaded would be my choice.

Transman 04-18-2012 10:16 PM

I have both.Two Springfield loaded models,ones a Longslide,the other is a Range Officer.My Smith is the new E series.All three are excellent shooters.The Smith just seems to be a little better quality fit and finish wise.All three are very accurate.The external extracter doesn't bother me a bit,it works.I also have a Sig STX,best shooter I own,and an external extracter.Handle them all,find friends that have different guns and try them out.Get what ya like!

canebrake 04-18-2012 10:23 PM


Originally Posted by limbkiller (Post 775013)
Your choice as both guns are really good guns. I won't own a 1911 with the external extractor so the loaded would be my choice.

+1 I echo that.

Smith makes a great 1911, just not my style.

janie117 04-19-2012 03:11 AM

I bought the Smith and Wesson E Series. If I don't like it (and I don't know why I wouldn't) I'll sell it and get a Springer loaded...heck, I might have to have both.

Thanks for the detailed responses to my question :)

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