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Old 01-29-2012, 05:09 PM   #11
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What are mim parts an does sig use them? I am basically looking for reliability and accuracy. I would also prefer everything to be mil-spec. I don't like junk or cheap stuff
I own a Sig Stx and it has performed flawlessly. As far as MIM goes, the only parts are the slide stop and firing pin. That's it. And Jon can be a little biased, but that's OK. But to rank a hi point higher than a Sig?!!! Not cool. Kimber IMO used to make amazing 1911‘s. There qc has gone down but they produce a lot of 1911's a year in their defense. I just don't see paying that much for a 1911 with plastic in it. Doesn't make sense.
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You really have a point. Go back around 18-24 months and almost all things Kimber were on indefinite backorder or you had to pay through the nose. Much easier to get one these days. Maybe the answer is they ramped up production to meet demand and the quality went down as the production went up. My 5-6 yr old ultra carry 2 was flawless out of the box and is still tight as you'd want it and I shoot it at least once a week. I have access to NIB Kimbers - now I'm curious so I'll pull one and give it a real close look.
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Just do it! Hell all the things that may or may not be wrong with a Sig are minor. I have recently bought a Sig 1911 platinum elite "discontinued model" from them I haven't shot it yet but I just love looking at it. I own a Kimber ultra covert II but I dont think its fair to compact the two. The Kimber is my personal defense weapon and the Sig is something that will be my range toy. Here are a few pics.

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I don't think Jon was ranking the Sig below Hi-Pointys and with the Kimbers.

There's little-to-nothing negative posted bad about the Sig's. (except that extractor thingie)

If you went by manufacture's sales photos of their 1911 pistols you would never know that there were external extractors in use. (except S&W and they are stupid when it comes to the 1911) It's not that the manufactures that use them are ashamed with the external extractor, it's just that it ruins the clean lines of the pistol.

If you want a wheel gun, get a S&W (or a Python) and if you want an auto-loader, get a Colt.
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I don't think Jon was ranking the Sig below Hi-Pointys and with the Kimbers.

There's little-to-nothing negative posted bad about the Sig's. (except that extractor thingie)

If you went by manufacture's sales photos of their 1911 pistols you would never know that there were external extractors in use. (except S&W and they are stupid when it comes to the 1911) It's not that the manufactures that use them are ashamed with the external extractor, it's just that it ruins the clean lines of the pistol.

If you want a wheel gun, get a S&W (or a Python) and if you want an auto-loader, get a Colt.
Cane those were some nice words about Sig 1911's. Did it hurt? I know you're not a fan of the looks of em
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I hate to say it, but I might put Kimber even with or just above Colt, particularly in the last couple of years. I have been impressed with what I've seen of the Sig, but that isn't more than a quick petting at the gun counter. A pal of mine kust picked up a Rock Island that is surprisingly good for the price point.

It's the Remington and Ruger that I really want to get a closer look at.

Wilson and the custom shop guns are well above all OE pistols, but the price tags make them pure unobtainium in my book. Checkbook, that is...
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I hate to say it, but I might put Kimber even with or just above Colt, particularly in the last couple of years. I have been impressed with what I've seen of the Sig, but that isn't more than a quick petting at the gun counter. A pal of mine kust picked up a Rock Island that is surprisingly good for the price point.

It's the Remington and Ruger that I really want to get a closer look at.

Wilson and the custom shop guns are well above all OE pistols, but the price tags make them pure unobtainium in my book. Checkbook, that is...
So......kimber above colt? That's a pretty bold statement. Whens the last time you heard of a problem with a Colt 1911? I haven't ever really heard of any to be honest. There's always someone complaining about their Kimber. Colts quality control on their 1911's are bar none-not many can compare (besides Wilson and ed brown) I am a Sig 1911 lover/owner. For their price point, its hard to beat them as far as features go.
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So......kimber above colt? That's a pretty bold statement. Whens the last time you heard of a problem with a Colt 1911? I haven't ever really heard of any to be honest. There's always someone complaining about their Kimber. Colts quality control on their 1911's are bar none-not many can compare (besides Wilson and ed brown) I am a Sig 1911 lover/owner. For their price point, its hard to beat them as far as features go.
I wouldnt even utter the words Colt and kimber in the same breath
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I wouldnt even utter the words Colt and kimber in the same breath
Not even to say that Colt is better?
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Not even to say that Colt is better?
Well,yes to say that....didnt think that part into my equation :-(
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