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Old 01-28-2011, 11:17 PM   #1
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Default Should I be worried about an alloy framed 1911?

Ok I decided on my plan. I'm gonna convert my Custom II to 460 and buy a 4" Kimber. So you all ready for more questions?

1. Most of the 4" have alloy frames. I am pretty leery of an aluminum frame, should I be?

2. I can't decide between these three.
Pro Carry II black steel slide/alloy frame
Pro Carry II SS slide/alloy frame
Pro Carry HD II all SS

They range from $728-$928, but what I can't figure out is why the all stainless HD II is cheaper than Pro Carry II that has an alloy frame?

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I know John Moses Browning would've used alloy if it had been as good as it is today. (He told me so.)

Unless you are going to run 1,000's of rounds a month or feed it a steady diet of Buffalo Bore +P+ ammo you have nothing to worry about.

I have several thousand rounds through Canebrake and the feed ramp isn't even broke in yet! Of course it is a Colt, not a Kimber.



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Whoa! From what I have read about the 460 Rowland from Clark Custom, an alloy frame is a big NO - NO! They already have issues with steel framed 1911's that are not properly heat treated/forged (like Taurus). You are perhaps inviting a very short life for your gun with an alloy frame.

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Cane honest question. What's the difference between a Kimber pro carry II and a comparable colt? The reason I lean toward Kimber is the gun is "match grade" with a good trigger, extended safety and beavertail safety which to someone with no gunsmithing abilities that is a huge plus. Additionally if you could buy a 4" and the SS frame was the same price as the alloy, would you still buy the alloy?

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Whoa! From what I have read about the 460 Rowland from Clark Custom, an alloy frame is a big NO - NO! They already have issues with steel framed 1911's that are not properly heat treated/forged (like Taurus). You are perhaps inviting a very short life for your gun with an alloy frame.
I think you missed my question. My custom II is getting converted. The alloy frame is going to be my next purchase.
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Whoa! From what I have read about the 460 Rowland from Clark Custom, an alloy frame is a big NO - NO! They already have issues with steel framed 1911's that are not properly heat treated/forged (like Taurus). You are perhaps inviting a very short life for your gun with an alloy frame.
First Canebrake is my 45 EDC and it started life as a Defender 3";



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Fenrir (460) is my SS XSE 5" Government
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Cane honest question. What's the difference between a Kimber pro carry II and a comparable colt? The reason I lean toward Kimber is the gun is "match grade" with a good trigger, extended safety and beavertail safety which to someone with no gunsmithing abilities that is a huge plus. Additionally if you could buy a 4" and the SS frame was the same price as the alloy, would you still buy the alloy?
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Cane honest question. What's the difference between a Kimber pro carry II and a comparable colt? The reason I lean toward Kimber is the gun is "match grade" with a good trigger, extended safety and beavertail safety which to someone with no gunsmithing abilities that is a huge plus.
Street price is about the same. I'm biased so the Colt is a no brainer. Plus the Kimber has a sh!t-load more MIM parts. And what exactly is "match grade"? My Remington 1911R1 has a [* snot bubble *] "match grade" barrel and when I compare it to my XSE's, I'll take the Colt barrel every time. Only the Colt Gold Cups have "match grade" barrels.

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Additionally if you could buy a 4" and the SS frame was the same price as the alloy, would you still buy the alloy?
Every time, why carry the extra weight?

If I were to buy a 4.25" Commander today it would be the Colt XSE Lightweight Commander Model O4860XSE.



I'd slap on a Wilson Combat, Beavertail Grip Safety, Drop-In, Commander, Stainless, $37.95

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A Smith and Alexander GMAS - Gov't Model Arched Stainless Mag-Guide/MSH, $78.95

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And order up a six-pac of Tripp Research Gen II Cobra Mags.

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Lol...Cane, that's why I put "" around match grade cause I know it ain't real match grade. What is MIM?

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