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1911aone 03-15-2013 08:53 PM

Serial Numbers on 1911s
I just bought a Springfield Armory Loaded Model 1911. It's a tight fit from top to bottom. The first 2 letters in my serial number is NM. Does this mean this gun has national match parts or is fit to national match dimensions?

limbkiller 03-16-2013 12:07 AM

Congrats as you got the SA that SA snobs buy. The gun is assembled in the US and is usually fit better, tighter, and in general a better gun than those with just an N. The N guns are put together in Brazil. I have one N gun and it is great but have to admit that the NM guns are better.

yayamamasami 03-16-2013 01:56 PM

Hi, Limbkiller!

Thanks for that info. I didn't know that about the serial numbers. Truth be told, I never gave it much mind. My SAMCO is a NM. It's nice to know its American made.


danf_fl 03-16-2013 03:43 PM

NM is for National Match. Supposedly, the frame is to National Match standards.
Alas, some have taken the NM too far.

(SAMCO is in the PI, a territory of the US)

yayamamasami 03-16-2013 03:52 PM

1 Attachment(s)
SAMCO is Springfield Armory Marine Corps Operator

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yayamamasami 03-16-2013 03:57 PM

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Originally Posted by yayamamasami
SAMCO is Springfield Armory Marine Corps Operator

Here's a pic

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danf_fl 03-17-2013 11:26 AM

My mistake. It is the Shooters Arms Manufacturing (SAM) in the PI.

yayamamasami 03-17-2013 11:36 AM


Originally Posted by danf_fl
My mistake. It is the Shooters Arms Manufacturing (SAM) in the PI.

Good looking weapons!! I've not heard of them before. Know much about them?

danf_fl 03-17-2013 12:07 PM

They've been around. They use to produce the Charles Daly 1911s.
Earlier guns were not to spec and everything had to be fitted.

edwardyoung 03-17-2013 03:07 PM

Charles Daly 1911s were produced by Armscor, the company that produces Rock Island 1911s. They will still honor the lifetime warranty of the Armscor-produced guns.

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