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Old 02-20-2010, 01:51 AM   #21
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Woah crap!
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Damn!! That is some serious chunkage taken out from one 3 foot fall!

This is yet another reason for all steel construction.

Thanks for the photos....

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I'll be careful not to drop my aluminum frame pro carry.
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One thing to remember here. Guns are not designed to be dropped. Its not normal wear.



BUT, it make me wonder if the 1911PD passed the California drop tests??
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One thing to remember here. Guns are not designed to be dropped. Its not normal wear.



BUT, it make me wonder if the 1911PD passed the California drop tests??
Thought the CA drop tests were to detect AD issues not quality of firearm construction.
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Desperado-Ops,I take it from the photo's that you just dropped the frame and not the complete gun. Am I correct? If so,I can see why it was damaged at the end of the frame. I'm sorry for your accident,but this was your own doing,and you shouldn't hold S&W accountable on this. I think they make a great 1911.
Alloy's are what they are,you hit a curb with a steel wheel you bend it,you do the same with an alloy mag wheel you break it!
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Thought the CA drop tests were to detect AD issues not quality of firearm construction.
Your correct. BUT, since they drop them in 6 different directions, one beind directly on the muzzle, a sensible person would expect breakage upon impact.
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Desperado-Ops,I take it from the photo's that you just dropped the frame and not the complete gun. Am I correct? If so,I can see why it was damaged at the end of the frame. I'm sorry for your accident,but this was your own doing,and you shouldn't hold S&W accountable on this. I think they make a great 1911.
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Yes that is correct sir. I dropped the frame during reassembly just after cleaning it. I'm sure the gun and my hands had a small amount of residual break free on them.
I think people may not be getting the point of this post.
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If you are in a position that you may use this particular make/model of gun in defense of your life or another's beware that the construction of the gun is not durable enough to withstand the abuse that the gun MAY encounter during an actual gun fight.
If you ONLY intend to use this gun at the gun range then be careful during reassembly because the frame is more brittle than a normal steel gun and cannot withstand a waist-high drop onto a range floor. This gun is harder to reassemble than any other 1911 I have ever disassembled/reassembled before. It is trickier and easy to lose a good grip of especially when your hands or the gun may have solvent and/or oil on them.
If for some reason you do buy this gun and the same thing happens to you, DO NOT waste your money by sending it back to S&W, EVEN THOUGH THEY WILL REQUEST IT, becasue they will NOT cover it under warranty.
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WOW, 2 years and only 200 rounds through it? (That's my minimum for a new gun maiden range trip!)

Might have raised a flag at S&W.

I'm just sayin'.
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WOW, 2 years and only 200 rounds through it? (That's my minimum for a new gun maiden range trip!)

Might have raised a flag at S&W.

I'm just sayin'.
I don't shoot my guns much. Usually just for qualification purposes. Too much money these days for ammo.
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