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zhuk 08-23-2009 10:36 AM

Is S.A.M. as dodgy as it sounds?
 
Maybe I shouldn't be asking this, but has anyone heared of S.A.M. (Shooters Arms Manufacturing) before? Only wondering as it was the only 1911 in evidence at the gun show I went to last weekend. Its a Philippine company apparently. This model in particular was the one I had a hold of. It certainly felt pretty nice (to my distinct lack of experience :rolleyes:)


http://home.winsoft.net.au/gazza/ima...LITE_9MM_1.JPG

http://home.winsoft.net.au/gazza/ima...LITE_9MM_2.JPG

Priced at $1200. Wouldn't like to imagine what any Colt/Kimber etc might cost...but would be around 3 grand I bet lol

CA357 08-23-2009 06:56 PM

Never heard of it. And it should be a .45 anyway. :rolleyes:

mr1911 08-23-2009 08:25 PM

You're kidding me? $1,200?!
I get fliers in the mail where they have been priced between $399. and $599.!

Short answer,...YES, "dodgy".

Long answer,....I'm sure I'll step on someone's toes and they'll get mad at me for my opinion here, but the material quality is questionable at best and the fit and function are right up there with the toy prizes that come out of a bubblegum machine.

Looks nice though doesn't it, lots of bells 'n whistles 'n stuff on it!

NGIB 08-23-2009 10:45 PM

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Originally Posted by mr1911 (Post 149409)
You're kidding me? $1,200?!
I get fliers in the mail where they have been priced between $399. and $599.!

Short answer,...YES, "dodgy".

Long answer,....I'm sure I'll step on someone's toes and they'll get mad at me for my opinion here, but the material quality is questionable at best and the fit and function are right up there with the toy prizes that come out of a bubblegum machine.

Looks nice though doesn't it, lots of bells 'n whistles 'n stuff on it!

He is in Australia. I suspect a basic Glock there is over a grand...

mr1911 08-23-2009 11:19 PM

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Originally Posted by NGIB (Post 149458)
He is in Australia. I suspect a basic Glock there is over a grand...

Good point, I didn't notice he was in another country, I'm suprised they would even have a 1911 for sale at all over there.

SGT-MILLER 08-23-2009 11:27 PM

There's been many different 1911 names coming out of the Phillipines lately.

I would have to hold the weapon to see what the quality is. I'm guessing that the quality will be serviceable at best. This looks like another "budget" type 1911 brand to me.

I would pay maybe a couple hundred dollars for it (if it's put together decent). It would be nice to have a good, newer 9x19mm 1911 pistol to practice with when .45 ACP ammo is sparse.

zhuk 08-24-2009 01:49 AM

Thanks for the heads-up on that guys. I kinda figured as much (still have painful memories of a Manila-based ISP I endured once lol) but thought I'd better check with you knowledgable folks!


Quote:

Originally Posted by NGIB
He is in Australia. I suspect a basic Glock there is over a grand...

Quote:

Originally Posted by mr1911 (Post 149463)
Good point, I didn't notice he was in another country, I'm suprised they would even have a 1911 for sale at all over there.

Indeed. Glocks are over 1000 bucks here. Anything halfway decent (ie HS2000/XD) is going to be about 1200 for starters...and that's without the extra mags necessary for IPSC, holster etc :(

And I have to admit, it's the only 1911 I've ever seen for sale here. My search will continue...

canebrake 08-24-2009 02:12 AM

That's because it's not a 1911, it's a 9 mike mike! http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...ons/cowboy.gif

zhuk 08-24-2009 05:17 AM

Hey cane :)

I know it's tantamount to sacriledge lol...but I'm only looking for a 9 mm. Shooting anything else in Production IPSC is a bit of a waste of time...it's all scored as a 'minor' power factor anyway, so not a hell of a lot of point going to a larger calibre. I think there are only a couple of people in my club who shoot 38 super not 9mm, and only 1 guy using .357.


Of course, none of this is going to apply if self-defence is your primary calibre-consideration.

CA357 08-24-2009 05:27 AM

Can you find CZ's there? I think you'd be very happy with one for IPSC shoots.


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