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Old 04-19-2011, 04:03 PM   #21
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I'm pretty sure Ruger is making their own frames in-house with their lost wax investment cast process. At least it would make the most sense for them to since they're already set up to do so.
they are with the assistance of caspian. it just depends on the quality of the metal they are using for the casting.
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the 1911 market is oversaturated!!! When's the Charter Arms 1911 coming out? Kel tec 1911? Hi point 1911?
Kind of like the .357 revolver market is oversaturated. Or the 12ga pump market is oversaturated.

C'mon. It's the most successful handgun design in history. If Ruger can make a gun that sells, then more power to them.
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I'm pretty sure Ruger is making their own frames in-house with their lost wax investment cast process. At least it would make the most sense for them to since they're already set up to do so.
Makes sense. But Ruger used to farm out a bunch of work to Robar for finishes and such. I was at Robar once and they had about a thousand P Series slides on racks being finished. So I wasn't sure.
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Kind of like the .357 revolver market is oversaturated. Or the 12ga pump market is oversaturated.

C'mon. It's the most successful handgun design in history. If Ruger can make a gun that sells, then more power to them.
Just my opinion, don't lose sleep over it,lol.

I don't have any plans of adding it to my list.
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dont mean to be a downer on the enthusiasm but the frames are investment cast. forward to 1:34 in the above vid. if its anything like other ruger cheap investment castings i would wait and see on this one.

Investment casting may be fine for a thick, heavy revolver (I used to own several), but a semi-auto? I like Ruger, overall, but I'll pass on their 1911. I am sure it will be fine for those who touchoff 20 - 50 rnds a year, but I am just as sure for those who burn-up hundreds or thousands of rnds a year, there will be problems, sooner or later.

A low purchase price, even today, should be a warning flag. Given how many of us (myself included), are turned off by MIM parts - how much more a turn off for an investment cast frame? Perhaps MANY years down the line my/our concerns will be quelled, but not for the foreseeable future!

Nah! I'll work some additional overtime and get a S&W, Colt, etc.
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I'm not a fan of cast frames, but they hold up fine. The old Detonics Combat Masters, Service Masters and Score Masters held up to tremendous use and they were all cast. Plenty of cast 1911s have held up fine.

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I wouldn't mind getting my hands on one and see what they feel like.

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Every Ruger I own, and I own several, has been as solid as the day is long. Would I prefer a forged frame? Sure. But I think the cast frame, done correctly, would handle plenty of abuse.

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Hickok does a pretty good job with his reviews, if you haven't watched any of his videos yet. This one has a full takedown and demo, he talks a little about the features and takes some fun shots.
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the 1911 market is oversaturated!!! When's the Charter Arms 1911 coming out? Kel tec 1911? Hi point 1911?
has glock made a 1911 yet?
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