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Brad_CCW 12-04-2013 02:32 AM

Problem with new STI Escort
 
First off I have to say this is a great looking gun and the weight is great for concealed carry. But if it doesn't shoot, what good is it.

I shot some reloads through it and noticed every other round or so wasn't going fully into the chamber. When they did go all the way in a lot of them wouldn't extract. If I dropped the slide on the empty casing I couldn't pull back on the slide hard enough to extract the casing. I had to insert a cleaning rod in the barrel and tap on it to push out the casing. Thinking the reloads were the problem I shot some factory ammo and got the same result.

I couldn't see anything in the barrel after dissassembly, but after a good cleaning I noticed the rounds would drop easily into the barrel. After reassembling, I tried to chamber a few rounds and they still did not want to seat fully without a little push on the back of the slide. No I'm not riding the slide forward but I did notice the first 1/2" or so is very light when pulling the slide back. I'm thinking the springs are not strong enough.

I tried to shoot the gun again with only factory ammo and still the slide would not travel the last 1/8" most of the time without a little help. The extraction problem didn't show up again so maybe there was something in the barrel hanging onto the casings.

I'm going to contact STI but I'd like to hear any thoughts on this.

Olympus 12-04-2013 02:48 AM

The compact 1911s are more prone to malfunctions like that. It's probably best to get an expert diagnosis from the manufacturer first.

Rick1967 12-04-2013 02:55 AM

Were the reloads lead or fmj? What you are describing could be a problem with the reloads causing the lead to get scraped by the case during the seating process. Then the lead could be deposited into the chamber. You would then have an issue with factory ammo if the lead were not properly removed from the chamber.

Brad_CCW 12-04-2013 03:17 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick1967 (Post 1448521)
Were the reloads lead or fmj? What you are describing could be a problem with the reloads causing the lead to get scraped by the case during the seating process. Then the lead could be deposited into the chamber. You would then have an issue with factory ammo if the lead were not properly removed from the chamber.

Reloads were FMJ. Like I said, the bullets drop right in the barrel if I remove the barrel. They seat flush with the little lip that sticks out from the top of the chamber. And when assembled the slide only takes a light push to finish chambering the round. Maybe 40% seat fully. I noticed as soon as I held the gun the first time that the slide is very easy to pull back that first 1/2". Seems like a 3" would have stiffer springs than my 5" Kimber.

Rick1967 12-04-2013 03:24 AM

Maybe it is a recoil spring then. Stranger things have happened. Will it go into battery easily when it is empty?

Brad_CCW 12-04-2013 05:05 AM

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Originally Posted by Rick1967 (Post 1448558)
Maybe it is a recoil spring then. Stranger things have happened. Will it go into battery easily when it is empty?

Ya, but it has the momentum of the slide when empty. I think as the bullet starts to enter the chamber it's slowing down the slide enough that the light spring can't finish the job. I would say it's acting like the spring is too short. I'm hoping I can just get STI to send me the spring or recoil assembly.

NotMormon 12-04-2013 05:47 AM

STI is a stand up company. What caliber do you have? It could be the wrong spring was installed, the extractor needs to be tuned or both. STI will probably want you to send the pistol back though. It sucks but, STI likely will want to examine it themselves so that the gun runs perfectly for you.

And you aint puttin 10mm in a 40 are ya;)

danf_fl 12-04-2013 10:27 AM

How does it shoot with factory loads?

I had the same problem with some reloads and found that the collar slipped on the reloading dies.

SSGN_Doc 12-04-2013 11:44 AM

I would contact STI and see what they recommend.

It is possible that the spring is bad, or your extractor needs to be tuned.

Reading your original post I will add the recommendation that you not drop a 1911 slide on a chambered round. The 1911 extractor is not super tolerant of repetitively doing this. Extractor tension is adjusted by bending the extractor slightly, and having the nose of the extractor striking the back of cases and snapping over the rim can adversely effect the tension adjustment. The extractor is designed to have the rim of the shell feed up under the hook during the feeding process.

Brad_CCW 12-04-2013 05:27 PM

I'm gonna contact STI as soon as I get back in town, and probably ship the gun to them. I'll let you guys know what they say.


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