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Jesse17 03-26-2011 03:24 PM

Need help finding the right 1911
 
OK guys, I'm starting to shop for my first 1911. Yes, I'm dead set on a 1911, please I don't want to here about Glocks, or XDs, etc. It will be my primary CCW but weight/size isn't the biggest issue because I'll be installing a lock box in my vehicles, and switching out to a LCP at work which is the only time I'm worried about my ability to conceal a larger pistol.

I've been making a list of the features I'm looking for, and have some questions about them also. No 'Desired Features' are set in stone, so please feel free to change my mind on any of them, and please point out other features/aspects that I should be looking at. I'm totally new to the 1911 world, so any comments about them are welcomed.



My Desired Features...
  1. .45 acp
  2. Stainless Frame and Slide (might consider an aluminum frame if it dropped the price enough)
  3. Full length guide rod
  4. w/bushing (I like the looks better, but would go bushing-less if someone told me what the advantage is.)
  5. ambidextrous safety (not sure if I really need this...IF I have to shoot it off hand, I've got bigger problems than learning to manipulate the safety with my index finger, not to mention I'll probably have to draw it with my right hand regardless, but they do look better with the ambidextrous :cool:)
  6. front and rear slide serrations (or just rear if I have to settle :()
  7. Not sure what you call it, but I want the entire mag. to fit in the mag well, not protrude out of the grip.
  8. adjustable trigger
I also like the idea of the rounded edges that Kimber has on one line of their 1911s (can't remember which line right now)

What is the deal with the Recoil Spring measurements. Is this how much force it takes to rack the slide? What's the advantage/disadvantage to lighter or stiffer recoil springs?

Thanks for the knowledge that's about to come my way. :)

Jpyle 03-26-2011 03:28 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse17 (Post 473109)
OK guys, I'm starting to shop for my first 1911. Yes, I'm dead set on a 1911, please I don't want to here about Glocks, or XDs, etc. It will be my primary CCW but weight/size isn't the biggest issue because I'll be installing a lock box in my vehicles, and switching out to a LCP at work which is the only time I'm worried about my ability to conceal a larger pistol.

I've been making a list of the features I'm looking for, and have some questions about them also. No 'Desired Features' are set in stone, so please feel free to change my mind on any of them, and please point out other features/aspects that I should be looking at. I'm totally new to the 1911 world, so any comments about them are welcomed.





My Desired Features...
  1. .45 acp
  2. Stainless Frame and Slide (might consider an aluminum frame if it dropped the price enough)
  3. Full length guide rod
  4. w/bushing (I like the looks better, but would go bushing-less if someone told me what the advantage is.)
  5. ambidextrous safety (not sure if I really need this...IF I have to shoot it off hand, I've got bigger problems than learning to manipulate the safety with my index finger, not to mention I'll probably have to draw it with my right hand regardless, but they do look better with the ambidextrous :cool:)
  6. front and rear slide serrations (or just rear if I have to settle :()
  7. Not sure what you call it, but I want the entire mag. to fit in the mag well, not protrude out of the grip.
  8. adjustable trigger
I also like the idea of the rounded edges that Kimber has on one line of their 1911s (can't remember which line right now)

What is the deal with the Recoil Spring measurements. Is this how much force it takes to rack the slide? What's the advantage/disadvantage to lighter or stiffer recoil springs?

Thanks for the knowledge that's about to come my way. :)

Good start...you should get a lot of good recommendations...one thing you might want to mention though is whether you are looking at a full size, Commander or an Agent.

Jesse17 03-26-2011 03:42 PM

Thanks Jpyle, I totally forgot that. I'm thinking a full size 5", but I need to hold some. I hate to go to my LGS though, I never actually buy any from them, just waste their time to look at guns I get cheaper from out of town.

That brings up another question...how well do the aluminum frame, SS slide combinations 'balance' in your hand? I would think the all steel would be a better balance?

mesinge2 03-26-2011 04:04 PM

We also need to know your budget restrictions

marshall 03-26-2011 04:08 PM

I just picked up a brand new springer 1911 loaded. i love it. my first 1911 and no regrets....i think the only thing that doesn't fit the criteria you listed is the adjustable trigger. which is something i DONT know. i would guess a trip to the gunsmith, can tweak the trigger.

also i should say mine is the stainless steel version. i bought new for 850. but i've seen em used for a little cheaper.

NGIB 03-26-2011 04:17 PM

Two of the items on your list are more hype than substance: the adjustable trigger and the full length guide rod. The adjustable trigger is merely a trigger that has a small allen screw inside so you can limit overtravel adjustment - which really isn't a big deal. A FLGR is something invented to part you from some of your money as they are not necessary. They don't hurt anything but they also don't improve anything either, and the two-piece models make the gun more difficult to field strip.

I'm not a huge fan of ambi safeties either but then again I'm right handed. Nearly all 5 inch (government size) guns will have a bushed barrel, on shorter barreled guns it's less common as many use bull barrels. Much will depend on how much you want to spend and whether you're looking for new or used. This beater Taurus actually fits your list exactly and I paid $420 for it used. The mag is a flush fit but I keep base pads on mine as it helps to protect the mag if you do drops & reloads...

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...G_PT1911-X.jpg

Jesse17 03-26-2011 04:19 PM

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Originally Posted by mesinge2 (Post 473144)
We also need to know your budget restrictions

Ideally under $1,500, but every one I like so far has been $2,700 and up :mad:

I might go as high as $2,000 if I absolutely have to.:(

NGIB 03-26-2011 04:23 PM

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Originally Posted by Jesse17 (Post 473159)
Ideally under $1,500, but every one I like so far has been $2,700 and up :mad:

I might go as high as $2,000 if I absolutely have to.:(

The 3 production guns I'd really consider are a Dan Wesson, a Springer TRP, or a Colt Gold Cup in that 1000 to 1500 range. I've owned all 3 at one time or another and they are all great guns. Here's the entry level DW at Bud's (a Valor is $300 more):

http://www.budsgunshop.com/catalog/product_info.php/cPath/21_82/products_id/62348

canebrake 03-26-2011 04:25 PM

$2K will buy you a very nice 1911. At that price, you won't need to make any after purchase mods.

(Except grips and Tripp Cobra Mags!)

Start here:

ozarkguns.com

mesinge2 03-26-2011 04:30 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by Jesse17 (Post 473159)
Ideally under $1,500, but every one I like so far has been $2,700 and up :mad:

I might go as high as $2,000 if I absolutely have to.:(

Well, with that budget I would go Kimber or Colt for around $1,000 and then some Chip McCormick Powermags or Wilson ELM mags. I have found no factory mags that are worth using. I don't like Springfields only because of the guide rod. It has to be disassembled with the use of an allen head.

I am not a fan of ambi safeties either; I have large hands and they routinely get in the way of a proper grip.

Sorry, I don't own a Dan Wesson and I can't recommend what I haven't shot.
Here are two of mine that I would recommend:

Colt XSE Combat Elite
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/m...mbat-elite.jpg


Kimber Stainless TLE II
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/m...ii-2-small.jpg


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