[Thebiker]

Thanks guys! I knew I could get the info I needed out of this group.

Cane, the wife has been shooting a lot of years, but if I handed her a pistol without sights......well at least there wouldn't be jagged edges.
The Defender does look good. But at $1015 MSRP I would need to find a deal or a good used.

Hoss, thanks. Didn't know that RIA had Commander/Officer sized options.

The Springer Loaded is still a bit rich for my pocket unless I can find a deal used.

Kimbers are also usually, even used, a bit too much $ for my wallet.

Well, I now have more options to check out.

Thanks,
Walt

[HOSSFLY]

Originally Posted by Thebiker

Thanks guys! I knew I could get the info I needed out of this group.

Cane, the wife has been shooting a lot of years, but if I handed her a pistol without sights......well at least there wouldn't be jagged edges.
The Defender does look good. But at $1015 MSRP I would need to find a deal or a good used.

Hoss, thanks. Didn't know that RIA had Commander/Officer sized options.

The Springer Loaded is still a bit rich for my pocket unless I can find a deal used.

Kimbers are also usually, even used, a bit too much $ for my wallet.

Well, I now have more options to check out.

Thanks,
Walt

n my short list
http://centerfiresystems.com/AC-RI1911-9MM-MSTT.aspx

[canebrake]

Originally Posted by limbkiller

I can't stand a pistol with no sights for the average person. That is a point and shoot weapon for more experianced shooters not a rookie. How do you get someone who hasn't shot much to practice with a new agent. Answer you don't. Worst idea colt ever had IMO.

I completely disagree.

A rookie has no habits to break.

And a 3" mouse gun is made for point shooting.

Its not a gold cup.

[HOSSFLY]

Originally Posted by canebrake

I completely disagree.

A rookie has no habits to break.

And a 3" mouse gun is made for point shooting.

Its not a gold cup.

Kind of hard to argue with that

[Gonzilla]

Point shooting - fastest way to miss I know of...

[HOSSFLY]

Originally Posted by Gonzilla

Point shooting - fastest way to miss I know of...

Sure is IF you dont know your gun or yourself with said gun

[mes227]

I just got a Dan Wesson Guardian, a commander-sized 1911 in 9mm. Allow frame, light weight and well designed for carry. And it's a gorgeous gun!!

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by limbkiller

I can't stand a pistol with no sights for the average person. That is a point and shoot weapon for more experianced shooters not a rookie. How do you get someone who hasn't shot much to practice with a new agent. Answer you don't. Worst idea colt ever had IMO.

Originally Posted by canebrake

I completely disagree.

A rookie has no habits to break.

And a 3" mouse gun is made for point shooting.

Its not a gold cup.

i agree with Cane on this. the New Agent is about concealment, not target shooting. it's a pistol designed for up close and personal, which is what an attack on your person would be. up close and personal, sights will be useless and if you are ever in that situation, and are determined to use sights, you will probably end up dead. practice with a pistol like the New Agent should be 5 yards or less, which is what it's designed for.

[FCross7]

Originally Posted by Gonzilla

Point shooting - fastest way to miss I know of...

Incorrect. Not practicing enough is the fastest way to miss.

If you're practicing solely for self-defense, then point shooting is what you should be doing. If you're practicing for competition type shooting, then that's another story.

I guarantee you anything on this planet, that if you were ever in a situation where you had to shoot someone to defend your life, the front sight of your pistol is the last place your eyes are gonna be. There is exactly one thing you will be looking at, and that is the threat.

If you consider yourself a decent shooter and can't point shoot, then you need more practice.

-Fred

[axxe55]

Originally Posted by FCross7

Incorrect. Not practicing enough is the fastest way to miss.

If you're practicing solely for self-defense, then point shooting is what you should be doing. If you're practicing for competition type shooting, then that's another story.

I guarantee you anything on this planet, that if you were ever in a situation where you had to shoot someone to defend your life, the front sight of your pistol is the last place your eyes are gonna be. There is exactly one thing you will be looking at, and that is the threat.

If you consider yourself a decent shooter and can't point shoot, then you need more practice.

-Fred

well said Fred. pretty much my thinking on the matter. practice and more practice.