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Old 06-27-2009, 11:54 AM   #1
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I'm getting ready to purchase my first 1911. I have been shooting M&Ps for a while but really want the trigger of a 1911! I am looking at the Eclipse Target II and am looking for opinions on the 4" barrel vs. the 5". Is there much difference in accuracy? I assume the longer sight picture would be an advantage but how much? My M&P .40 has a 4 1/4" and my .45 has a 4 1/2". Can't tell much of a difference.......

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I'm sure one of the more knowledgeable member will chime in here but From what Ive noticed between my 3" and 5" is muzzle flip. The 3" is much more drastic than the 5". Plus the 5" as you mentioned has a slightly larger sight radius. I would say it really depends on what yer getting it for, ccw, home defense, target shooting ect.. If you re really only getting it to have one and target shoot on occasion than I would prob go for the 5". If you're getting it for ccw then I would prob go for the 4" if not a 3" . But then again its always better to have that extra two inches if you run out of ammo and have to bludgeon someone with it

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I much prefer the shorter sight radius of the Compact. It allows for quicker target acquisition and easier pointability.

When I was shooting damn near every weekend, I was able to use my Compact to drop a magazine into a 8 or 10 inch steel at 50 yards in about 10 seconds. I'm not sure that the extra inch of barrel would have helped anything.

The bull barrel adds weight to the front end of the pistol, negating some of the muzzle flip associated with short barreled 1911s. Even in light of that, I added a set of Hogue Combats early on in my love affair. Recoil and muzzle flip isn't even an issue.

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You can see the 3 distinct groupings from the 3 points in my breathing that I held my breath to take the shot.

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I would have to say that accuracy for handguns does not totally come from the length of the barrel, but more from the shooter and the quality of the gun. Every gun shoots differently and only practice and proper training would be able to improve accuracy.

The difference between the 4" and 5" would not be too different in accuracy. I would focus more on what the application for the gun will be. protection = 3", smaller for concealment. Target = 5", longer for "accuracy". If your going to use if for target and protection then go 4".

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Also note that the short barrel 1911s are usually more particular than full-size guns. They also tend to wear out springs much faster as well, the Kimber compact I had was rated for 500-700 rounds per spring change...

(Yup, it's been a long time since my last visit)

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Also note that the short barrel 1911s are usually more particular than full-size guns. They also tend to wear out springs much faster as well, the Kimber compact I had was rated for 500-700 rounds per spring change...

(Yup, it's been a long time since my last visit)
I'm on my original set of springs. They've got about 10k rds on them and the pistol still functions perfectly.
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Now, I'm almost exclusively 4" or 4.25" barrels on my .45's. I notice NO loss of any accuracy of the weapon going from the 5" to the 4". Muzzle flip differences between the two is a non factor. I find the 5" to be much less comfortable in daily carry, so I got rid of them. I'm sure others will have differing opinions, but for me the 4-4.25 barrel range is wonderful all around.
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Now, I'm almost exclusively 4" or 4.25" barrels on my .45's. I notice NO loss of any accuracy of the weapon going from the 5" to the 4". Muzzle flip differences between the two is a non factor. I find the 5" to be much less comfortable in daily carry, so I got rid of them. I'm sure others will have differing opinions, but for me the 4-4.25 barrel range is wonderful all around.
Good luck!
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What's your take on the shortened sight radius? I find that it enhances pointability and quickens target acquisition.
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Maybe I'm weird, but I don't notice much of a difference at all on anything but close double taps, and those are point shots anyway. As long as I see the 3 dots in a row over target, I know it's go time. Can't say as I'm any quicker or slower between 3" or 5" barrels.....
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Would there be much loss of velocity or energy when choosing a shorter barrel?

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