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Old 10-19-2010, 03:31 PM   #31
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Springfield or Sig you can't go wrong. I like the Commander size too for carrying. The Govt. size jabs you in the ribs when you sit, unless you use a shoulder rig. I do like both however!

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This is all crazy talk...the most obvious choice has already been presented...get a real Commander and leave all the latecomers to the fidgeters...

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This is all crazy talk...the most obvious choice has already been presented...get a real Commander and leave all the latecomers to the fidgeters...
Excuse my obtusity...is the "real Commander" the Colt?
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I will tell you if you promise I won't get dragged into a pointless discussion of the attributes of a one brand versus another...

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Excuse my obtusity...is the "real Commander" the Colt?
Yup. Rank wise a Commander is an O-5, Para makes the LTC which is the Army designation for an O-5. Both are true 4.25 inch bushed barrels...
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Buy two RIA 1911CS Compact and still stay under your budget limit. Or buy one and about $500 worth of ammo to practice with. I bought one about a year ago and it's had minimal problems--a couple of jams traced to a weak recoil spring. RIA sent an entire recoil assy. to my door within six days. One of my most satisfying experiences with it was at the end of a range session when a friend looked morosely at his Para P12 and my RIA 1911CS and lamented, "I could have had two of these (the RIA) for the price of this (the P-12.)" If you want a decent, reliable, accurate everyday carry piece get an RIA. If you want price-point bragging rights, get a Colt, Kimber, or Springfield.

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If you want price-point bragging rights, get a Colt, Kimber, or Springfield.
Not the whole truth there as there are differences between RIAs and the brands you mention - such as forged vs cast frames & slides. I like Rock Islands for what they are - good entry level 1911s, but they are not in the same league as a Colt, Kimber, or Springer.

A Kia and a BMW are both cars that will get you from point A to point B - but the Kia isn't better just because it's cheaper...
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Not the whole truth there as there are differences between RIAs and the brands you mention - such as forged vs cast frames & slides. I like Rock Islands for what they are - good entry level 1911s, but they are not in the same league as a Colt, Kimber, or Springer.

A Kia and a BMW are both cars that will get you from point A to point B - but the Kia isn't better just because it's cheaper...
It wasn't the whole quote, either. My point was that the RIA does the job reliably and accurately for far less money than those pricier brands. True, it may have an injection cast frame rather than a more expensive forged frame: Ruger has built an entire industry on its injection molding processes and their guns don't seem to have suffered any quality issues as a result. Yes, the more expensive guns might have a few more frills like fine checkering and prettier grips, but that doesn't mean that they shoot any better or more reliably. When it comes down to hard facts, the purpose of a gun is to shoot and to shoot accurately. The RIA pistols will do that.
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Never said an RIA wasn't a decent shooter but they are what they are. Can you hang a .460 Rowland conversion on an RIA? The answer is no - they are not strong enough. They are also ill-suited for a build platform for the same reason. Your comment made it sound like spending the extra money for a Colt, Kimber, or Springer was a waste - I'm saying you get what you pay for...

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True, one is not going to turn an RIA 1911 into anything but a 1911. That's irrefutable. But, if all one wants is a 1911 then they are a very good, economical and cost-effective choice. The extra costs for something that will never be anything but a 1911 is what I meant by "bragging rights."

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