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Old 08-12-2009, 11:49 PM   #21
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I accept your request and hope you accept my response.

First, I am a big glock bigot.
Well, this is a given. That's why I asked your opinion.

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Once when Bruce Nelson was asked by a suspect if the thirteen-round magazine in the P35 was not a big advantage, Bruce's answer was, "Well, yes, if you plan to miss a lot."
I've heard the FBI rule of thumb, 3 shots, 3ft, etc. Again, that's why they make spare magazines. I'm beginning to question the need to carry all of those rounds in one's grip. Perhaps a few of those rounds would be better on one's belt.

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Come on down to Ft. Lauderdale for a canebrake training session. I can also show you the superiority of the AR platform over the AK!
That would extremely cool, Cane. The research I've been doing on the AK-AR debate the last couple days is leading me down the path of an AR set up for 5.45x39 or at least something bigger than .223. I'm thinking we may need a little more firepower sooner than later.


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You may notice that I was the OP on this one. I was with you the whole ride, you bigot! :-)

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I'm not a bad guy--I LOVE Tupperware!

I am no Glock bigot!


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The OP already stated that he was interested in a Glock 21, and he has already given the impression that he does not really like the 1911 platform as much.

Consider the question solved when it was asked.

It would probably be best not to degenerate into the whole 1911 vs Glock argument again, because in the end it really doesn't matter
I totally agree, SGT. I'm no glock kool-aid drinker. I've only purchased one handgun and I'm cheap so I bought a glock. I brought it up only to be clear about to what I'm comparing my thoughts. I'm someone who does research, compares people's impressions, spends a little time holding a few options, then purchases and deals with what I've got.

I haven't made up my mind either way, it's just human nature to stay with what ya know. For my .45, it seems that another glock might just be redundancy, whereas a 1911 might very well fill a hole I didn't know I had--a weapon that feels really natural in my hand.
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That would extremely cool, Cane. The research I've been doing on the AK-AR debate the last couple days is leading me down the path of an AR set up for 5.45x39 or at least something bigger than .223. I'm thinking we may need a little more firepower sooner than later.
You wanna rethink the bigger than .223 statement when you are thinking about 5.45 mm? Just curious. So, you gonna go with the Glock anyway, right?
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Chris - Where do you live? THe state or close local area? There are probably members near you that own other pistols and I know a ton of the Supporting Guys would be HAPPY as hell to take you to the local range and show you what is what.

If you are in the Seattle area anytime soon, look me up. I will take you to the range and let you shoot some pistols handed down from Mt. Olympus, through the genius John Browning, and into the hands of the mortals....

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You wanna rethink the bigger than .223 statement when you are thinking about 5.45 mm? Just curious. So, you gonna go with the Glock anyway, right?

Yeah. I think he meant 7.62 x 39, the AK round.

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Because You can do this to a 1911 and it still looks cool.



This NOT COOL.

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Uh oh, let's keep the porn to a minimum, tango. My right brain is getting a little too stimulated!

Dillinger, my in-laws live across the Sound. I might very well take you up on that sometime. Talking is one thing. Doing is in a whole 'nother league. I'd love to shoot from someone willing to teach. Thanks for the offer. I'll message you some day soon.

As far as the AK round (7.62x39mm), I wasn't making a mistake as much as showing a lack of knowledge. I'd love to have an AR with an upper that could fire the AK round. But I also read something about 5.56x45mm being adopted by NATO and that many AR system guns take this round. Again, I know nothing about this. I've just started learning because times they are a-changing. .223 might be lighter so you can carry more and shoot more accurately, but bigger would be better.

I don't really want to continue this in the 1911 forum. I'm sorry I started this line. I'm hijacking my own thread!!

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Uh oh, let's keep the porn to a minimum, tango. My right brain is getting a little too stimulated!

Dillinger, my in-laws live across the Sound. I might very well take you up on that sometime. Talking is one thing. Doing is in a whole 'nother league. I'd love to shoot from someone willing to teach. Thanks for the offer. I'll message you some day soon.

As far as the AK round (7.62x39mm), I wasn't making a mistake as much as showing a lack of knowledge. I'd love to have an AR with an upper that could fire the AK round. But I also read something about 5.56x45mm being adopted by NATO and that many AR system guns take this round. Again, I know nothing about this. I've just started learning because times they are a-changing. .223 might be lighter so you can carry more and shoot more accurately, but bigger would be better.

I don't really want to continue this in the 1911 forum. I'm sorry I started this line. I'm hijacking my own thread!!
Get the AR in 6.8.

Get your butt down here in Ft. Lauderdale and I'll convert your glock brain washed hull-of-a-man into a real 1911 believer. No magic, no smoke and mirrors, just the best trigger break (like a glass rod) you have ever experienced! If it isn't too big an ego junk-punch, I'll have my 17 Y.O. daughter show you the advantages of the JMB 1911 pattern pistol over the glock-block! Can you say COLT?

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Uh oh, let's keep the porn to a minimum, tango. My right brain is getting a little too stimulated!

Dillinger, my in-laws live across the Sound. I might very well take you up on that sometime. Talking is one thing. Doing is in a whole 'nother league. I'd love to shoot from someone willing to teach. Thanks for the offer. I'll message you some day soon.

As far as the AK round (7.62x39mm), I wasn't making a mistake as much as showing a lack of knowledge. I'd love to have an AR with an upper that could fire the AK round. But I also read something about 5.56x45mm being adopted by NATO and that many AR system guns take this round. Again, I know nothing about this. I've just started learning because times they are a-changing. .223 might be lighter so you can carry more and shoot more accurately, but bigger would be better.

I don't really want to continue this in the 1911 forum. I'm sorry I started this line. I'm hijacking my own thread!!
I fully expect to be invited to that shoot trip too.
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CHLChris, this is just my own personal, and highly subjective, view. I tried a few different .45's and found the 1911 platform (in the form of a lowly Colt 1991A1) to be the easiest to shoot accuratly. The single action trigger was just perfect.

The only drawback I found was capacity, 8 rounds will suffice for 99,9% of the situations I might face, but I figured having more couldn't hurt. That's when I chanced upon the ParaOrdnance P-14, a 1911 platform with 14+1 rounds. Just perfect.

I still like the single stack guns (especially in Commander and Officer sizes) for concealed carry.

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