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Old 09-26-2011, 01:34 AM   #11
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try the awc stuff its almost identical in profile to 230 grn fmj. i picked up a box for my sd guns and it seems to be good stuff.

but i run 2 colts and a xdm 45 so just any of the premium hp 230s work fine. i just see expansion as a bonus if it should occur in a sd situation. your still hitting the goblin with freekin dumptruck.

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The only problem I have had with the TAP round is its failure to mushroom. I tested out 200rds of 40s&w and only one mushroomed right. I like all the results of the hydra shok and the Speer gold dot.

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Update: bought the 230 grn TAP as suggested, no failures! Now I feel comfortable using these as my carry round! Tried them out today, shot good just was shooting low today (and had a couple of strays)
But hey at least the last 5 were a good group! Not bad from 25

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Even your stray would count as a fatal shot...good shooting bro...and great choice on the ammo

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Even your stray would count as a fatal shot...good shooting bro...and great choice on the ammo
Thanks sir much appreciated. I'm a lot more accurate with my glock but I've got about 2000 more rounds down range than the 1911. Hope to get there soon. You're a LEO aren't u wray?
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Thanks sir much appreciated. I'm a lot more accurate with my glock but I've got about 2000 more rounds down range than the 1911. Hope to get there soon. You're a LEO aren't u wray?
Not at the moment sir i am not, i was ten years prior and have packed in alot of training and experience. I am only temporarily out of it right now.. i will be back in pretty soon
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Not at the moment sir i am not, i was ten years prior and have packed in alot of training and experience. I am only temporarily out of it right now.. i will be back in pretty soon
regardless even though I'm sure you're not in my area, thanks for your service to the public
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Thank you brother, a LEO doesnt hear that very much anymore. Its a pretty thankless job.i remember being a kid and being outside playing and hearing sirens. We would get excited and run by the road and watch the emergency vehicle go by. It doesnt seem to be that way anymore.. Being flipped off and cussed at seems to happen more these days
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Thank you brother, a LEO doesnt hear that very much anymore. Its a pretty thankless job.i remember being a kid and being outside playing and hearing sirens. We would get excited and run by the road and watch the emergency vehicle go by. It doesnt seem to be that way anymore.. Being flipped off and cussed at seems to happen more these days
Too true man too true
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The only problem I have had with the TAP round is its failure to mushroom. I tested out 200rds of 40s&w and only one mushroomed right. I like all the results of the hydra shok and the Speer gold dot.
what did you test on?? wet newspaper isnt a good expansion media. its not even analagous to tissue. if you want a real test buy a pig carcass and try it out...

shoot it a few times then have a pig roast.
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