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Old 12-13-2013, 12:41 AM   #1
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I have an EMP 40 and 9mm. Anyone know if the frames are swappable? I'm sure it would reduce the life of the aluminum frame but if that's the only downside I'd like to do it. I really like the .40 round but the steel frame is too heavy.



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Old 12-15-2013, 03:23 AM   #2
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Well here's another thought since nobody has any opinions for a frame swap. I'm looking for a good .40 carry gun. My EMP would fit the bill very well with an aluminum frame.

Here's my criteria:
1. Minimum 8+1 capacity
2. Maximum 26 oz
3. Maximum width 1.1"

If it doesn't carry at least 8+1 then I may as well carry my STI Escort or Kimber CDP Compact 45's. I have a PX4 compact that shoots great, but the safety is opposite of a 1911, which means I don't wanna rotate it with my 1911's. Also it's just a bit thick at 1.2" Taurus should be coming out with their .40 Millennium Pro G2 any time now. I have the 9mm and it's shockingly good for the price. I calipered the Taurus grip at 1.07", which is easly the slimmest I've ever heard of for a double stack. Any thoughts? Suggestions?



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In the 1911 world, aluminum frame stuff is normally carried while steel is shot a lot.

I am not say you can't, but have you considered why the .40 is on a steel frame and not aluminum? Today's techniques with metals are great, but is there a chance that SA tried the same thing and decided on steel?

If I were manufacturing a 9mm originally and wanted to increase the caliber size, I would try what I have on hand first (aluminum), and if that did not work, then other materials.

The other thing is physics. The more mass there is, the more energy is needed to move it.
Steel frames have more mass and will absorb recoil better.

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Ya I'm sure that's what happened. Obviously the .40 is more powerful but most companies make .40 and .45 with aluminum frames. You can get the STI Escort in aluminum and it's even lighter than the EMP 9mm. But I haven't seen any officer size mags that hold 8 rounds so I might as well just carry a 45.

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My EMP 40 has been my EDC for a year. The steel frame makes it shoot better than my Ultra CDP. The weight disappears with a Milt Sparks VM 2. And most importantly Beltman stiffened 1 1/4 belt. The N82 holster also works great.

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That milk sparks doesn't have a flat backing like the N82 does it? I tried a Galco V-Hawk, which I hear is almost identical to the Milt Sparks, and the I didn't like it nearly as much as my N82.

The EMP 40 carries well in my N82 but when I switch back to my CDP Compact or Escort it's a big improvement. I'm more accurate with my 4" CDP firing slowly but I need to compare them better during rapid fire. I swear the longer barrel makes it carry better too.



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