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Old 04-12-2013, 11:30 AM   #21
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I've been looking for these rounds for several months now.
Which one of you guys have used this particular Critical Defense 220 gr 45 cal +P bullet and where did you get them ?

http://www.hornady.com/store/45-Auto-P-220-gr-Crit-Duty/
I've heard JHP .45+p's actually over expand and are less effective than normal pressure .45s
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I've heard JHP .45+p's actually over expand and are less effective than normal pressure .45s

Here's a good video on the round.

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My guns like this and so do I.

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As far as ball ammunition goes, my Kimber will fire anything. When it comes to hollow points, Hornady XTP is the only ammo that will not jam or stove pipe in my gun.

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I hate's me a finicky feeder. I like Gold Dots. My 1911's will eat them, but many folks experience problems with them in their 1911s. Sig 220 and Glock 21 seem to chew anything. this is my cheif complaint about 1911s. Shorter ones, like commanders and officer models can be more picky feeders from my experieince.

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IMHO, Any 1911 pistol works best and most reliably with 230 gr hardball ammo.The 1911 was designed to be used with 230gr FMJ (which J W Browning,by the way, developed form the old 230 gr S&W Schofield cartridge which is 1/10" shorter than a 45 colt)
If you can't put an aggreessor down with a 230 gr FMJ, you have a problem.
All the exotic 45 acp ammo out there doesn't work any better and certainly less reliably than the 230 gr FMJ
Again, just my opinion, but i have carried a 1911 Colt or equivalent since 1966, including my service in the US Army in the 60's.
I see no need for lighter bullets at higher velocities.The 230 gr FMJ at 850 feet per second has certainly proved itself through at least 3 Wars and numerous insurrections.Nothing works any more effectively than the 230 gr 45 acp.Save your dough, shoot 230 gr hardball!

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I am comfortable with ball ammo. If I ever need it, it won't be on someone likely to be wearing body armor. You prepare for the threat you expect to encounter. .45 ACP ball, in the target zone, will smash ribs and stop people in their tracks.

I practice with the ammo I carry, if I don't freak out in an emergency, I believe I can stop a threat with ball ammo.

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I am comfortable with ball ammo. If I ever need it, it won't be on someone likely to be wearing body armor. You prepare for the threat you expect to encounter. .45 ACP ball, in the target zone, will smash ribs and stop people in their tracks.

I practice with the ammo I carry, if I don't freak out in an emergency, I believe I can stop a threat with ball ammo.
I totally agree with you...Very smart and very logical
For 99.9% of civilian encounters with bad guys, 230 hardball is more than adequate, especialy if you stay in control and can place your shot
Also, reliability and a 230 gr pill beats muzzle velocity with a smaller pill!
I also practice weekly with nothing but 230 ball
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I am comfortable with ball ammo. If I ever need it, it won't be on someone likely to be wearing body armor. You prepare for the threat you expect to encounter. .45 ACP ball, in the target zone, will smash ribs and stop people in their tracks.

I practice with the ammo I carry, if I don't freak out in an emergency, I believe I can stop a threat with ball ammo.
I totally agree with you...Very smart and very logical
Size does matter..I'll take a 230 gr pill over muzzle velocity with a smaller pill anytime in a personal defense situation
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while i do practice and carry both FMJ and JHP in my 1911's, i also consider what feeds reliabily in my firearms first and foremost.

but i would not feel impaired in the slightest if i had nothing but 230 gr FMJ ammo at anytime. it's pretty much been proven for 100 years in the 1911.

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