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smh1973 10-09-2013 04:55 AM

commander or combat commander
 
Hey guys. What is the difference between the colt commander,and the colt combat commander? Also any thoughts on either of theses versus the r1 carry commander? Looking to purchase a commander and trying to research.
Thanks Steven

danf_fl 10-09-2013 10:34 AM

This may be a good start.
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Colt_Commander

MOshooter 10-10-2013 02:08 AM

Lots of good info the wiki link there Dan.

Steven the current Colt production 4.25 barrel length pistols are being called commanders,the commanders produced now are steel frame and the LW Commanders are alloy frame pistols.
The only production Colt's calling a combat commander is a stainless commander in their XSE line of pistols,take a look at Colts website,the combat commander weighs in at 33.5 oz. and the LW commander weighs 27 oz.,not sure what the current commanders weigh other than the two I listed.

I've heard a lot of positive reports on the Remington R1,i'm sure their commander style pistol will be just as nice.

Axxe55 10-10-2013 02:47 AM

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Originally Posted by MOshooter (Post 1396952)
Lots of good info the wiki link there Dan.

Steven the current Colt production 4.25 barrel length pistols are being called commanders,the commanders produced now are steel frame and the LW Commanders are alloy frame pistols.
The only production Colt's calling a combat commander is a stainless commander in their XSE line of pistols,take a look at Colts website,the combat commander weighs in at 33.5 oz. and the LW commander weighs 27 oz.,not sure what the current commanders weigh other than the two I listed.

I've heard a lot of positive reports on the Remington R1,i'm sure their commander style pistol will be just as nice.

the differences that i can see between the two are minor, such as sights and trigger, IIRC. basically the same pistol in all essence from i can tell.

i too saw that Remington has upped the ante and is now offering a Commander sized 1911. if it's anywhere half as good as the R1 Enhanced that i have already, it's going to be a fine pistol for those looking for a Commander sized 1911.

therukh 10-10-2013 02:59 AM

The Combat Commander has a steel frame, while the Commander has an aluminium frame. Commanders can have two different types of slides; one with lightening cuts and one without. We used to call the former a "light-weight, light-weight", because of the light-weight frame & the light-weight slide.

Axxe55 10-10-2013 03:08 AM

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Originally Posted by therukh (Post 1396992)
The Combat Commander has a steel frame, while the Commander has an aluminium frame. Commanders can have two different types of slides; one with lightening cuts and one without. We used to call the former a "light-weight, light-weight", because of the light-weight frame & the light-weight slide.

you might be incorrect. here are the current Commanders from Colt.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=O4691

steel frame, blued.

one Combat Commander, stainless steel.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=O4091U&mfg=Colt&mdlno=Combat+Com mander

another Combat Commander, stainless steel frame.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=O4012XSE&mfg=Colt&mdlno=Combat+C ommander

a Lightweight Commander with an allow frame and stainless slide.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=O4860XSE

CardiacColt68 10-10-2013 03:36 AM

Just plan to buy one of each! One for the range and one for carry. Then it won't matter!

therukh 10-25-2013 07:50 PM

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Originally Posted by Axxe55 (Post 1397002)
you might be incorrect. here are the current Commanders from Colt.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=O4691

steel frame, blued.

one Combat Commander, stainless steel.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=O4091U&mfg=Colt&mdlno=Combat+Com mander

another Combat Commander, stainless steel frame.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/Default.aspx?item=O4012XSE&mfg=Colt&mdlno=Combat+C ommander

a Lightweight Commander with an allow frame and stainless slide.

http://www.galleryofguns.com/genie/default.aspx?item=O4860XSE

I'm sorry, I should have said Series 70. Thanks for the current info.

Axxe55 10-25-2013 10:33 PM

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Originally Posted by therukh (Post 1413367)
I'm sorry, I should have said Series 70. Thanks for the current info.

i'm not sure, but there is some confusion as to if they made Series 70 Commanders. some people say they did, some say they didn't. as of yet i haven't seen any proof one way or the other.

therukh 10-26-2013 05:06 AM

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Originally Posted by Axxe55 (Post 1413498)
i'm not sure, but there is some confusion as to if they made Series 70 Commanders. some people say they did, some say they didn't. as of yet i haven't seen any proof one way or the other.

Well, I've never come across a roll-stamped Series 70 Commander either, but the Combat Commanders & the Lightweight Commanders started being available in 1970, so I guess I misspoke since, around the shop, we called all the Commanders of the '70's; Series 70.


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