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Old 01-13-2015, 06:12 AM   #1
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Default Blasphemy!... Are there too many 1911's?

I am sure not everyone will agree, so let's hear it. EVERYONE and his cousin are making 1911's. Companies that have never been in the 1911 business, like Ruger. The product is virtually identical, the differences are often split-hair or non-existing, and a copy of a copy. I understand the market gets what the market wants. But I have never seen so many different models and makes of the 1911 design collecting dust on the store shelves. Why is that?
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Old 01-13-2015, 08:31 AM   #2
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That may be true. I should clarify the question - is there an OVERPRODUCTION of 1911's, and too many brands making THE SAME pistol, in peacetime?
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If people are still making money selling them, then there are not too many being produced. That's a pretty simple economics question.
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I agree. At this point there are tons of companies making them. They run from $300 to over $3,000. Lots of choices.


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Para which has been around a while has been running rebates trying to sell their guns. Prices are really low. Tempting but they are just too heavy. I saw a new Ruger SS Commander for $600 otd at a recent small gun show.
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If people are still making money selling them, then there are not too many being produced. That's a pretty simple economics question.
Yes, of course. Question is, how come 50 different gunmakers are needed to make the market happy? Like everyone wants a "special edition" that no other guy has in possession?

But I do think they're going to slow down. Same with the AR's by the way. The difference is the AR is modern, the 1911 is vintage. It's like half-gun, half-souvenir for a lot of people who buy it.
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Default Blasphemy!... Are there too many 1911's?

I've got a Colt series 70 and an Ace. Have not even thought about a new 1911. There is not a one I would want on the market today that's under $3,000.00. So, an easy no there too.
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I think this is a contributing factor to Colt's financial troubles/bankruptcy...All the good quality knock off 1911s, and ARs...Also when the tupperware guns really became popular ...they were behind the curve...and they still are.. Only way i can see a gun Mfg going Bankrupt during a time of booming gun sales....?
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That may be true. I should clarify the question - is there an OVERPRODUCTION of 1911's, and too many brands making THE SAME pistol, in peacetime?
There is a high demand for 1911s with varying prices,this is good as it gives people choice. with that said "posted" along with price come quality,but this is not always the rule. There are many 1911s with very good prices that are well made and have good fit and finish's.

Where I see the problem is the many different size and materials used in a lot of the 1911s. Just to many companies chasing after the money with so many models. With many people wishing to carry the 1911 we see many of the smaller shorter bbl. ones. And many buyers of these short bbl. 1911s have a lot of problems.
John Browning original Design was the 5 inch 1911,and the bbl. locking timing and recoil system for it,along with it Designed to fire .45acp 230gr ball FMJ Ammo.
Having to change this bbl. locking and timing of the recoil system,brings many complex problems.
Some Mfg.s of these short bbl. 1911s have good luck many don't.
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