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Old 09-21-2013, 04:04 PM   #11
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Actually, would it be possible to hand load using 45 and get it up to 460 level? Obviously assuming the brass is strong enough and the gun has been prepared properly before hand (ported or compensated barrel, and not a crappy one either, maybe a tungsten guide rod even...). I've read that the only reason the brass is longer is to prevent idiots from putting it in a RIA and killing themselves.
So if I used a 45 super brass maybe?
I read many things as well. While that may in fact be the case, I for one am not will to bet body parts on the supposition of random folks on the interwebs. It's not them that will be picking up pieces of pistol (other things more dear) off the ground.

.460 Rowland case length-. 957
.45 acp case length- .898
Pressure will be an issue as will proper head spacing if used in a .460 Rowland barrel. In a .45 acp barrel, well you're asking for serious trouble. While .45 acp brass will probably survive, why would you risk it?
Your tossing around some pricey (Les Baer, etc.) names and you want to cheap out on the last 10%? If you can't afford to do this the right way, you can't afford to do it. Buy the applicable Rowland equipment and brass and do it correctly. I suspect you will be happier in the long run as well as being able continue to count to 10 with just your fingers.
http://460rowland.com/will-the-460-work-with-a-long-slide-gun/
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Just theoretical. I wouldn't use some crap barrel, and I certainly wouldn't use a round in a barrel it wasn't intended for. I was more concerned with if they ever stop making the brass, and the lack of options in the barrels. 460 Rowland only has drop in barrels (where'd I'd prefer match grade) and the porting is "California approved". I was born in Georgia and I'm going to Alaska. I don't care what California approves of. If I was going to do it, I'd use Bar Sto or Storm lake.

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if you look at some of the sites that make the 460 Rowland conversion kits, there are specific 1911's that say to use for those kits and certain ones that they say to not use.

with the pressures generated by this round, there is probably a really good reason to heed their advice on this.

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IMO, that is like tossing a Chevy 350 into a Cruze.

Why? What do you gain (besides wearing out the handgun prematurely)?

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Want something different maybe 40super. Out pace's the 10mm cartridge with out the hammering of the 460.
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I really like the long slides!I've got a Springfield loaded longslide in 45,SS,bull barrel,flgr,great shooter.I've got a Fusion Hunter in 10mm,nothing short of fantastic,and a Kimber TLE converted to 460 Rowland(not a longslide,but 6")that's a real beast!

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Actually, would it be possible to hand load using 45 and get it up to 460 level? Obviously assuming the brass is strong enough and the gun has been prepared properly before hand (ported or compensated barrel, and not a crappy one either, maybe a tungsten guide rod even...). I've read that the only reason the brass is longer is to prevent idiots from putting it in a RIA and killing themselves. So if I used a 45 super brass maybe?
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I read many things as well. While that may in fact be the case, I for one am not will to bet body parts on the supposition of random folks on the interwebs. It's not them that will be picking up pieces of pistol (other things more dear) off the ground.

.460 Rowland case length-. 957
.45 acp case length- .898
Pressure will be an issue as will proper head spacing if used in a .460 Rowland barrel. In a .45 acp barrel, well you're asking for serious trouble. While .45 acp brass will probably survive, why would you risk it?
Your tossing around some pricey (Les Baer, etc.) names and you want to cheap out on the last 10%? If you can't afford to do this the right way, you can't afford to do it. Buy the applicable Rowland equipment and brass and do it correctly. I suspect you will be happier in the long run as well as being able continue to count to 10 with just your fingers.
http://460rowland.com/will-the-460-work-with-a-long-slide-gun/
IIRC, the cases for the 460 are beefed up in the web area of the case more to be able to handle more pressure. so while it may be possible to load 45 acp cases to 460 pressure levels, it would not be advisable at the expense of the shooter or the pistol.
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Alwayscarrying, This Grizz has the .357 mag. conversion as well. I did some engineering work for LAR in SLC years ago. We designed some Mercedes Benz drives for their milling equipment. While there I was able to get many of the items made for the Grizz. These are incredibly well made handguns.

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How's PSI on the 40 super compare to the 10mm? Does it need a different brass or barrel?

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Nitestalker, I am truly jealous.

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