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Old 09-21-2013, 01:57 AM   #1
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I've got most of my tools and parts for my first project building, and now my mind is wandering towards the next. I was thinking a 6 inch long slide using a 6" Les Baer Monolith Heavyweight slide, doing the entire thing (no, really, everything but the grips) in Severns customs hard hat finish and putting either a Clark Custom or a Aristocrat sight rib on it. This one is a ways off, but needless to say, 45 just doesn't cut it in this thing. What caliber would you guys recommend? Like 10mm or 460 Rowland (which is involved in my current project), or similar cartridges. Thank you.
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I am a great fan of the .460 Rowland. I also load it for the Ruger .45 ACP Flat Top. In the Ruger you can load the Rowland in a standard .45 ACP case. The case is fully supported and does not need the case hardened Rowland web.
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I enjoy the 460 too, I just wonder about hot loading it. If any 1911 can handle it, it'll be this thing, My grandfather hooked me up with some reloading gear last time I went home, and I want to push it a bit in this one when I get to it. I'm also not sure how it stacks up to other rounds though.
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the 1911 can handle pretty stout loadings its the battering of the frame and slide that doesnt work out so well. your going to need super strong springs and a muzzle brake to tame that recoil force.
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If you like odd-ball calibers you could try .400 corbon or .45 win mag.
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The .460 Rowland conversion for a 1911 runs around $600 dollars. It is costly. A standard 1911 will unwrap firing these rounds. My .45 Win Mag is a very impressive handgun. The Grizz is very accurate but it has a very sharp recoil.
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It looks closer to $400 on the 460 Rowland site and about $300 is from Clark Custom. Admittedly I'm not sure if those are the only 2, and if their not I'd like to look at the others. I want to get match grade over drop in any day. As for weapon preservation, I was going to buy a metric crap ton of WC shock buffs, as heavy a recoil spring as I could use without effecting reliability and possibly a recoil system guide rod (which would probably have to be specialized for the specific needs of the cartridge). Honestly I think the sheer weight of this thing will do a lot of the recoil in. But I've been wrong before.
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Nitestalker, that grizz is beautiful. Almost got one recently and I'm kicking myself for not getting it.
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Actually, would it be possible to hand load using 45 and get it up to 460 level? Obviously assuming the brass is strong enough and the gun has been prepared properly before hand (ported or compensated barrel, and not a crappy one either, maybe a tungsten guide rod even...). I've read that the only reason the brass is longer is to prevent idiots from putting it in a RIA and killing themselves. So if I used a 45 super brass maybe?
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I'm not an expert on this, but I'm gonna go ahead say. .460 Rowland runs at some pretty high pressure compared to .45 Acp's 21,000 psi. I don't think even .45 Super could realisitically do it.
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