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Old 07-11-2010, 05:10 PM   #21
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I respectfully disagree with the theme here that lasers are not worth the cost. Anyone who's had to draw down will tell you that in that moment, with the adrenelin pumping, you will "tunnel vision" on the threat and the last thing you will consider looking at are your sights.

My house pistol is a Sig 226 .40 with a Streamlight/laser combo. Adds about 300 to the cost and you need a "rail" gun to mount it but I would not want to be without it if trouble shows up at 2am.

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PS-5" barrel for a 1911 is good advice. The longer sight radius will give you better range results and reliability exceeds that of the "shorter" 1911's

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I respectfully disagree with the theme here that lasers are not worth the cost. Anyone who's had to draw down will tell you that in that moment, with the adrenelin pumping, you will "tunnel vision" on the threat and the last thing you will consider looking at are your sights.
At the average distances for SD issues if you have had any training what so ever you should be able to hit a target at out to 10 yards with or without a laser.

And I am a pretty good example of one that has been put in that position I am sad to say.
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I'm in the pro laser camp, especially for home defense. You guys know why, you're half asleep, it's dark and you've got to get on target ASAP.

Besides that, when I started into handguns last year I found that the laser was a great tool in assisting me to see what I needed to do to hit the target. It gave me a line of sight.

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How does the laser help you see better? Half asleep you still have to acquire a target. And I can't see a laser help you tell friend from foe.

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Lasers also help when you are out of position. You can just look where the laser is no matter if you are laying in bed shooting over someone, on the floor in an awkward position,etc....

I think lasers add a great addition to have in a real self defense situation.

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Lasers also help when you are out of position. You can just look where the laser is no matter if you are laying in bed shooting over someone, on the floor in an awkward position,etc....

I think lasers add a great addition to have in a real self defense situation.
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i would love a set of crimson trace it would just be another toy for me and would be a lot of fun

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At the average distances for SD issues if you have had any training what so ever you should be able to hit a target at out to 10 yards with or without a laser.

And I am a pretty good example of one that has been put in that position I am sad to say.
DJ-I agree with your statement. All I'm saying is that 2 a.m. in bed is nothing like 2 p.m. at the range or on the street. Blurred vision and being out of position can be deadly. Any device that illuminates a possible threat, "really important if you have teen's", and allows an accurate shot regardless of position, is an advantage I'll gladly pay for and train with.

I think we'd both agree that NO amount of ninja gear will save your life if you lack dicipline in your trianing.

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I too am pro-laser. Pushing sixty, and with slightly shaking hands, I can no longer hold open sights "on target" well enough for a quick followup shot. In an emergency "do something now" situation, just looking for a red dot is a saviour (sic) if there is no time to assume a proper stance, or if crowded by surrounding items.

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I'm in the pro laser camp, especially for home defense. You guys know why, you're half asleep, it's dark and you've got to get on target ASAP.

Besides that, when I started into handguns last year I found that the laser was a great tool in assisting me to see what I needed to do to hit the target. It gave me a line of sight.
I couldn't disagree with you more!!! Lasers are a crutch true and simple. If it's too dark for you to see your sights, it's too dark for you to see your target and know if your target is a target or not.

There is no replacement for front sight focus!!! No laser in the world will help you if you're looking over your gun to find your little red dot. If you're on target on trigger your focus should be on your front sight. Even if it's only a flash sight picture.

Training... training... training...
Front Sight... Front Sight... Front Sight.

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