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Old 01-25-2014, 03:17 AM   #61
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Hey Nightstalker...that grip must be a handful. I can handle a double stack 45 acp no problem. I have big hands. But that must be a deep grip. Is it difficult to hang on to?

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Rick very good observation. Not really it is like using over sized grips on a .44 Mag. After you shoot a few rounds it seems natural enough. When you are shooting 300 grs. bullets at magnum levels you need a big grip. These gun are very accurate at long range as well. I also have a .357 Mag. conversion for this one.

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My 1911 does fine for what I need it for.

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The 1911 magnum version can handle about anything. The LAR Grizz chambered in the .45 Winchester Magnum is a favorite in the back country.
That'll put 'em down, no matter what " 'em " is!

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My thoughts exactly. EDC is for Every Day, isn't it.
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I wouldn't trust a .45 ACP against a bear. I'd carry a .357 Mag, 10mm, or .44 Mag at the minimum.
My sentiments exactly.

1. I reload both 357 Mag as well as 45 ACP and 14.8 grains of 2400 powder is much better than 5.8 grains of Win 231.

2. 1,300 fps is much better than 850 fps.

3. This State requires a min of 357 Mag to be carried for hunting here.

I love the 45 ACP and carry it every day for 2 legged protection, But out in the woods it's the 357 mag.

Can't tell you what you should do, but just what I do.

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My sentiments exactly.

1. I reload both 357 Mag as well as 45 ACP and 14.8 grains of 2400 powder is much better than 5.8 grains of Win 231.

2. 1,300 fps is much better than 850 fps.

3. This State requires a min of 357 Mag to be carried for hunting here.

I love the 45 ACP and carry it every day for 2 legged protection, But out in the woods it's the 357 mag.

Can't tell you what you should do, but just what I do.

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I see your point and cant argue at all, unless your saying that a 357 is better equipped with the needed horse power to pull this off. The 45ACP was designed to produce the same results as the 44.40, you may have heard of this. It was 40gr BP topped off with I think 250gr lead. The load became so popular that it probably killed more deer, bear, and moose in Maine in the late 1800 to early 1930 than any other cartridge, granted most kills were from a rifle/carbine, but at close range its basically the same effect.

Now a days you can get flat point bullets that are way better at getting to the boiler maker at 900fps, and it might not sound like a lot on paper. But I can tell you, that a 255gr hard cast will drive deep, way deeper than a HP, and it don't have to expand because its already a 45.
I'm sure you can see where I'm going with this. It has been done several times in the past. I do have a 44mag that I carry when in the woods, so in a way I do agree with you.
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That was a question. All you had to do was answer yes, or no. Didn't need the snide remark. However, your original post simply said there wasn't much of a difference which is pretty vague. It could be seen as you saying they're very similar from a ballistics standpoint. You didn't specify.

Regardless, I guess we'll just have to disagree. If there's a chance I'm going to run into a bear and ALL I can choose is a handgun. It won't be 9mm, .357 Sig, .40 S&W, or .45 ACP.
I just thought maybe you had seen some of my other post and knew I had a grasp on the subject, and was really just trying to mess with ya a little in the process
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[QUOTE=bigjim;1491812]My sentiments exactly.
1. I reload both 357 Mag as well as 45 ACP and 14.8 grains of 2400 powder is much better than 5.8 grains of Win 231.
2. 1,300 fps is much better than 850 fps
3. This State requires a min of 357 Mag to be carried for hunting here.
Jim[/QUOT

We don't have those restrictions:

Illegal cartridges

Deer hunting

No firearm may be used which uses .17 or .22 caliber rimfire cartridges, except .22 magnum. No firearms of any kind may be carried while hunting deer with a bow and arrow during the special archery season on deer and the expanded archery season on deer, except that a person who also holds a license that allows hunting with firearms may carry a handgun but it cannot be used to shoot a deer or dispatch a wounded deer.

Moose hunting

It is illegal to use .17 or .22 caliber rimfire firearms, shotguns using shot loads or a crossbow. Hunters 70 years of age or older may use crossbows (expires 1/1/2015).

I can use my 45 here!


Seams like Maine has it right in my point of view with its limitations, cant believe I said that...Its really hard to judge a handgun by the ballistics results, you could say that the old Mauser automatic had the same stopping effect as the 45 because the light small fast bullet made the same energy. How many Mauser 30cal or what ever do you see any more? It just didn't work that great at stopping fights/attacks.
When the handgun came into its "own" so to speak, It became evident very quickly that the larger, heavier bullet/ball had a very fine advantage. Then Walker got involved and made a handgun so powerful as to make sure that any man hit would surely stop fighting. This gun became the most powerful handgun until the event of the 44mag.
This gun was really big and heavy, and it kind of blew up sometimes. People decided that they didn't really need a pistol that out bested a rifle at 200yards, so then dropped the charge down to the 44-40 range. This type of power did the job for years.
Life was good until Elmer Keith came around and decided he wanted to kill his deer at longer ranges. Then everyone found out how under powered they have been

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In oklahoma i wear open carry everywhere i go I own 9 45s the problem i have is which one i want to carryimageuploadedbyfirearms-talk1396436491.075709.jpg i own springfields and paras and a sig 1911-22


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