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NGIB 09-08-2009 12:36 PM

1911 tinkering (pix)
 
This weekend I installed the new trigger group in the Para P16. Rather than just replace the trigger (it was plastic - yuck), I bought a kit which included a trigger, hammer, sear, disconnector, and new springs & pins. It took a bit of fitting but I got everything working the way I want it and also polished the levers that operate the firing pin block. I'm very happy with the trigger pull now - very smooth with a clean break.

Since I knew this would give me a spare skeleton hammer and sear from the Para, I ordered a drop-in beavertail for the Norinco. I did not want to have to modify the frame (in case I want to put it back to mil-spec) so this will be a test to see how well the drop-in's work. Parts from Brownells should be in today. I find tinkering with 1911s to be a lot of fun and you of course get the satisfaction of doing it yourself. If I find the drop-in doesn't look or feel like it should, I'll just revert it back to the original configuration...

CA357 09-08-2009 04:04 PM

Sounds like you did a good job on it. I always like to hear about folks' 1911's. Keep us in the loop.

crockett007 09-08-2009 06:14 PM

I installed the Wilson "drop in" BT on my Colt Compact Model. It wasn't a "drop in" operation at all. In fact, it turned into a major rework operation. The problem seems to always be the hole that allows the thumb safety pin to pass through. Colt uses all the tolerance available frame to frame, while the Wilson drop in locates the hole @ nominal. I ended up welding the part and re-locating and drilling the hole to match my frame. The original Colt grip safety was drilled as to have less than .020 wall thickness!

before:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7/DSC02080.jpg

work in progress:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7/DSC02090.jpg

finished build:
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7/DSC02118.jpg
http://img.photobucket.com/albums/v2...7/DSC02126.jpg

CA357 09-08-2009 07:05 PM

Very nice. :cool:

canebrake 09-08-2009 07:11 PM

Props crockett007, very nice http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...coltlogo75.gif!

canebrake 09-08-2009 07:24 PM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGIB (Post 156828)
This weekend I installed the new trigger group in the Para P16. Rather than just replace the trigger (it was plastic - yuck), I bought a kit which included a trigger, hammer, sear, disconnector, and new springs & pins. It took a bit of fitting but I got everything working the way I want it and also polished the levers that operate the firing pin block. I'm very happy with the trigger pull now - very smooth with a clean break.

Since I knew this would give me a spare skeleton hammer and sear from the Para, I ordered a drop-in beavertail for the Norinco. I did not want to have to modify the frame (in case I want to put it back to mil-spec) so this will be a test to see how well the drop-in's work. Parts from Brownells should be in today. I find tinkering with 1911s to be a lot of fun and you of course get the satisfaction of doing it yourself. If I find the drop-in doesn't look or feel like it should, I'll just revert it back to the original configuration...

If it says "Drop-in", it isn't!

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NGIB 09-08-2009 07:48 PM

TBH, I'm not to worried if it doesn't fit and I'm not going to make any major mods so it does. If it works - great, if not I'll chuck it into the parts box for possible later use. Just experimenting with my toys as tinkering with them is a lot of fun and I learn something new every time...

NGIB 09-08-2009 10:22 PM

Well, it took about 15 minutes to fit the grip safety tang to the trigger bow - and it dropped right in. No, it's not as smooth as grinding the correct radius on the frame; however, I can go back to it's mil-spec configuration in a few minutes. Function is perfect and I was able to reuse the skeleton hammer & sear from the Para...

http://i272.photobucket.com/albums/j...IMG_NNOR-X.jpg

canebrake 09-09-2009 12:22 AM

Quote:

Originally Posted by NGIB (Post 157040)
Well, it took about 15 minutes to fit the grip safety tang to the trigger bow - and it dropped right in. No, it's not as smooth as grinding the correct radius on the frame; however, I can go back to it's mil-spec configuration in a few minutes. Function is perfect and I was able to reuse the skeleton hammer & sear from the Para...

Woo hoo! Nice job Dave, you did get a drop-in!!

No plastic trigger implant? http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...cons/rofl3.gif

If you're a high-ride freak like me the new grip safety along with the arched MSH will show up in your accuracy. With the palm of your hand riding higher in the saddle you will feel the recoil a tad more.

That's a small trade-off for the improved muzzle stability. http://i695.photobucket.com/albums/v...ons/cowboy.gif

Let me know if you notice these changes.

NGIB 09-09-2009 12:29 AM

I put arched MSH's on all of mine as they just point better for me. The trigger in this one actually came out of my Colt Commander which got the pretty new trigger. That's one of the things I really like about the 1911 platform - nothing goes to waste as most parts interchange - as long as no serious fitting had to be done...


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