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Old 10-12-2013, 03:04 PM   #61
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There are no series 70 Commanders. None were issued with "Finger Bushings".
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There are no series 70 Commanders. None were issued with "Finger Bushings".
those were the ones with the four cuts in the bushing, so they would grip the barrel better?
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There are no series 70 Commanders. None were issued with "Finger Bushings".
We could go on and on (as others have done before) on this issue. Part of it comes down to who's deciding on exactly what defined which series, pre 70, 70, pre 80, 80. Some want to also throw in 1st and 2nd gen into them. Idk. Is it the fire control parts alone that makes the difference? Or the collet bushing? Or the combination? Idk. Its all a very hard argument.
For example: I have a Colt Combat Commander ('81 or early '82) that has the solid bushing, and the series 70 style fire control parts (no pin block). According to the serial, its not a series 80 yet, and if its not a series 70, what is it? Ah, its not a Commander either. Its a Combat Commander. Now its all clear as mud.
No, I am in no way trying to argue. Just explaining my (and probly others') confusion.
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We could go on and on (as others have done before) on this issue. Part of it comes down to who's deciding on exactly what defined which series, pre 70, 70, pre 80, 80. Some want to also throw in 1st and 2nd gen into them. Idk. Is it the fire control parts alone that makes the difference? Or the collet bushing? Or the combination? Idk. Its all a very hard argument.
For example: I have a Colt Combat Commander ('81 or early '82) that has the solid bushing, and the series 70 style fire control parts (no pin block). According to the serial, its not a series 80 yet, and if its not a series 70, what is it? Ah, its not a Commander either. Its a Combat Commander. Now its all clear as mud.
No, I am in no way trying to argue. Just explaining my (and probly others') confusion.
i was not as aware of the finger style bushings and was under the impression that the safety system of the fire control was what defined whether it was a Series 70 or a Series 80. also had heard the series number came from the decade they implimented such changes, eg: 1970 and 1980.

i would like to see some more information as well on this.
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Theres quite afew debates on several other forums and sites, some with better info than others. A basic search for 'series 70 Commander' will bring up a few. Not sure of Im allowed to name other forums on here or not.
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this strictly my experiance and opinion based on the pistols i have.

i have a Remington R1 Enhanced and a SA Micro Compact 45 that i used for a comparison between them in regards to recoil. the R1 has a steel frame and slide w/ a 5" barrel, and the SA has an allow frame with a SS slide w/ a 3" barrel. i have shot the same ammo out of both so the ammo was equal.

i did notice a small difference in recoil between the two as the SA did seem to have a bit more felt recoil. nothing that would make a huge difference in being able to control and use follow-up shots if needed. i used both 200 gr. XTP and 230 gr. XTP reloads for the comparison. both loads were about middle of the charge weight range.

now in a 9mm or a 40 S&W rounds, there might be a bit difference in more felt recoil going from a larger and heavier pistol to a smaller and lighter one. in a 45 which is a bit slower than either of the other two rounds, it might not be as big an issue.

just wanted to throw that out there for you to consider.
Axxe I agree on the 40 S&W,that little cartridge has some muzzle flip. I have a G23 it's about the same size as a commander,that little pistol chambered in the 40 S&W has quite a bit of muzzle rise and flip,not unmanageable but not has recoil friendly as the 45 ACP.
I prefer the 45 ACP recoil that seems more like a push than the faster 40's muzzle flip. I can't comment on the 9mm recoil,because i've never shot a 9mm pistol.
But i've shot gobs of 44 mag.,which was my first handgun after my 22 H&R Mod. 999 Sportsman.
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Axxe I agree on the 40 S&W,that little cartridge has some muzzle flip. I have a G23 it's about the same size as a commander,that little pistol chambered in the 40 S&W has quite a bit of muzzle rise and flip,not unmanageable but not has recoil friendly as the 45 ACP.
I prefer the 45 ACP recoil that seems more like a push than the faster 40's muzzle flip. I can't comment on the 9mm recoil,because i've never shot a 9mm pistol.
But i've shot gobs of 44 mag.,which was my first handgun after my 22 H&R Mod. 999 Sportsman.
just wanted to give my impressions of what i experianced with my two pistols.
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just wanted to give my impressions of what i experianced with my two pistols.
Thanks Axxe,
I appreciate your input and experiences and impressions between your R1 5" steel frame and SA Micro Compact over recoil,I haven't shot a 3" barrel 1911 yet. That's another 1911 on my list

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Thanks Axxe,
I appreciate your input and experiences and impressions between your R1 5" steel frame and SA Micro Compact over recoil,I haven't shot a 3" barrel 1911 yet. That's another 1911 on my list

Thanks again
that SA Micro Compact was not cheap, but i fell in love with it when i handled it. i even liked it's feel better than the Colt Defender i was looking at. i liked the Defender, but loved the Micro Compact. its a sweet shooting pistol and fits my hand perfectly. i was a bit concerned in spending that much on a compact 1911 as i had only ever owned full sized 1911's in the past. just last year i bought my first Commander sized 1911 as well. now i want another one!

i do seriosly have that dreaded 1911 affliction!
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