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Old 04-20-2013, 06:00 PM   #41
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I was on this forum, reading this thread because after 58 years on this planet, 24 of them active-duty military, I just purchased my first 1911 several months ago. Even though I owned, shot, (and qualified with) numerous handguns; I didn’t own a 1911 or cared to. After buying the first one and shooting it, I now understand the passion it can bring out in an owner. What a great gun! Anyway, I was reading this thread because I want another and wanted to read that others were saying.
Lots of good info here. Then I came across the posts “skimball” made. Most others made rationale, common sense rebuttals. But slamming him because of the numbers of posts he’s had over the years…………..?
When “notoriousM3” tries to counter that with his personal example, HOSSFLY posts a non-contributing “so what” comment.
In 12 years of public school and six years of college getting undergrad and grad degrees I spent most of that time listening, observing, and reading. Not talking or giving my opinion. Most people get their education in like fashion.
Let’s put it this way……………&hellip ; Is a yappy little dog who barks at everything from crickets to airplanes more of a dog because he’s noisy? Is Obama a great president and politician because he makes a lot of speeches and gets media attention?
As a kid I remember my mother telling me that, “it’s better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.” These days I teach college. I tell my students it’s, “Ready Aim, Fire – not; Ready, Fire, Aim!” I offer both pieces of wisdom to you. Oh yeah, feel free to slam me for the number of posts I had. Then compare my join date.

Be safe! –Aim High
If you noticed, several of us tried to address the misinformation that he used as "rationale" without any success. I just gave up. You can lead a horse to water.

And I've tried to get this thread back on track but it seems to continue getting derailed by this tedious stuff. I apologize to the OP.
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My advice would be to buy a Springfield 1911a1 and spend the rest of your $1400.00 on ammo.

I have shot my present Springfield since 1994. Untold thousands of rounds of ammo down the tube and it has not had a part failure and still shoots great. The finish is heavily worn from years of carry, but she is a beauty to me. You can buy a lot of bells and whistles if that is what blows your skirt up, but the plain Jane 1911A1 is a fine handgun.

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I was on this forum, reading this thread because after 58 years on this planet, 24 of them active-duty military, I just purchased my first 1911 several months ago. Even though I owned, shot, (and qualified with) numerous handguns; I didn’t own a 1911 or cared to. After buying the first one and shooting it, I now understand the passion it can bring out in an owner. What a great gun! Anyway, I was reading this thread because I want another and wanted to read that others were saying.
Lots of good info here. Then I came across the posts “skimball” made. Most others made rationale, common sense rebuttals. But slamming him because of the numbers of posts he’s had over the years…………..?
When “notoriousM3” tries to counter that with his personal example, HOSSFLY posts a non-contributing “so what” comment.
In 12 years of public school and six years of college getting undergrad and grad degrees I spent most of that time listening, observing, and reading. Not talking or giving my opinion. Most people get their education in like fashion.
Let’s put it this way……………… Is a yappy little dog who barks at everything from crickets to airplanes more of a dog because he’s noisy? Is Obama a great president and politician because he makes a lot of speeches and gets media attention?
As a kid I remember my mother telling me that, “it’s better to keep your mouth shut and be thought a fool, than to open it and remove all doubt.” These days I teach college. I tell my students it’s, “Ready Aim, Fire – not; Ready, Fire, Aim!” I offer both pieces of wisdom to you. Oh yeah, feel free to slam me for the number of posts I had. Then compare my join date.

Be safe! –Aim High


Quote me where i said anything close to a "so what" comment----
Learn to read & comprehend exactly whats said before spouting off outright lies AND basicly bullshet remarks!
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If you noticed, several of us tried to address the misinformation that he used as "rationale" without any success. I just gave up. You can lead a horse to water.

And I've tried to get this thread back on track but it seems to continue getting derailed by this tedious stuff. I apologize to the OP.
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I have to ask the OP when does he want to have it in his hands? A Les Baer is awesome unless you want it NOW and theres a 6-9 month wait. I don't know what the lead times are or if that matters greatly. I own a SIG1911 and can only speak well of it. And its got a lifetime warranty. SA TRP is very good as well, ditto on their warranty. WC, Nighthawk, DW Les Baer are all great pistols, but you pay the price. Id do a bit of research at the range, pick up as many of your options as you can. And balance that out with pricing and availability.

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I don't want to beat to death the "knock-off" comment, but I do want a small lick.

Given that Colt was the first producer of J.Browning's fine gun, when others are made from the same materials and the same blueprints, to the same standards, they are hardly knock-offs. For instance, Remington Rands, Ithacas, Union Switch & Signal, and Singer all made the same gun, from the same plans, on the same type of equipment. All parts interchange... It would be hard for me to refer to these as knock-off 1911s.

If anyone has a knock-off Singer they don't want, I would be happy to speak to you about it.

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I don't want to beat to death the "knock-off" comment, but I do want a small lick.

Given that Colt was the first producer of J.Browning's fine gun, when others are made from the same materials and the same blueprints, to the same standards, they are hardly knock-offs. For instance, Remington Rands, Ithacas, Union Switch & Signal, and Singer all made the same gun, from the same plans, on the same type of equipment. All parts interchange... It would be hard for me to refer to these as knock-off 1911s.

If anyone has a knock-off Singer they don't want, I would be happy to speak to you about it.
only around 500 of the Singers were supposedly made and very few even still exist as many were destroyed. yeah, i'd like to have a Singer "knock-off" too!
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To get back to the original question, take a look at an STI Trojan. Excellent pistol from a terrific company with an enviable reputation. For about $1200 you won't find a better 1911. American made from start to finish right in Georgetown, TX. As for the warranty, STI warrants all their pistols for life regardless if you are the first owner or the tenth owner. The warranty is on the gun. If you do have an issue you would be hard pressed to find better customer service in the industry.

STI really made their reputation producing competition hi-cap 1911s and that legacy of quality carries over into their single stack pistols. Their guns are tight fitting, smooth running, and very accurate. I have a dozen of their guns (both single and double stacks) and have never been disappointed. That includes two Trojans (.45 & 9mm) that I use in IDPA competition.

I'm sure there are also other good choices (Springfield, Colt, Ruger...), but you would be doing yourself a disservice if you didn't take a look at a Trojan.

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I have seen some great advise here, STI, Springfield, Les Baer, Colt. I don't think you could go wrong with any of them. I personally don't like Kimbers, 2 very close friends had problems with them and had no customer support! I just picked up a Para black ops single stack and I couldn't be happier. Because of the great customer service and I just liked the gun.

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only around 500 of the Singers were supposedly made and very few even still exist as many were destroyed. yeah, i'd like to have a Singer "knock-off" too!
Can i get in on that
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