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Old 04-23-2013, 05:16 PM   #11
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+1 on Rock Island. They're not pretty but they are very reliable. If you do have a problem they have a lifetime warranty and some of the best cs in the business. And no they don't rattle when you shake them.

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Old 04-23-2013, 05:47 PM   #12
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I'll try to address your concerns.

As others have already said, you can buy a reliable 1911 for well under $1000. You just want to buy from a company that stands behind their products and offers a great warranty just as extra insurance in case the gun you get has some bugs. The factory can have the bugs worked out for you.

As far as the difference between $1200 guns and $2500, the difference is both small and large. There are lots of small differences that make up a large difference if that makes sense. Things like higher quality forged steel parts versus cheaper cast or MIM parts. Just looking you wouldn't be able to tell the difference. But one is more expensive to produce than the other.

Also, guns under $1000 are mass produced. A guy takes one part from a box full of the same parts and assembles a gun with all these parts. They'll still make a very nice gun. But there are tolerances and variations in the machining of all of these parts. The $2500 guns are produced in much smaller quantities because a guy takes a part from a box and then spend hours fitting and polishing and mating the part with the other parts of the gun. It's the attention to detail that you're paying the extra money for.

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Old 04-23-2013, 06:08 PM   #13
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Buy a rock island 1911 they are good for the money i have on for my everyday carry ...hheres a pic is the tactical cs model .45 acp

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Old 04-23-2013, 06:56 PM   #14
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Lots of reliable 1911s under $1200. Rock Island is a solid gun for the money, STI is another and the list goes on. The 1911 platform can be purchaseed in other calibers and sizes too. I have a mil spec 5" and a commander 4" and neither cost me more than $500.

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If you want a reliable 1911 for $1200 take a look at the STI Trojan. Tight fit, very smooth, excellent trigger, and VERY accurate. The boys down in Texas make some mighty fine 1911s. STI built their reputation on making high end competition pistols and their quality standards extend throughout their lineup.

Among my STI pistols are two Trojans and they are excellent. You will be hard pressed to find a finer 1911 at that price point. I shoot my 9mm Trojan in competition and it performs beautifully. With the exception of their entry level Spartan model (also a solid pistol for around $650) all their guns are made from start to hand fitted finish in Georgetown, TX.


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For the Glock Vs. 1911 perspective:
http://www.firearmstalk.com/forums/f15/1911-reliability-88843/

The model 1911 design has proven itself to be reliable through service with the US Armed forces much of the last century. The US Marines just ordered a buttload of new Colt 1911 Railguns for use with their more specialized units. I think it's safe to say the 1911 is sufficiently reliable.
The finicky 1911 is a myth that started when people got to "improving" the good old GI models. Some were better at it than others. Tightening the frame to slide fit, tightened barrel bushings and feeding them SWC ammo improved accuracy, but didn't do reliability any favors. Now that's not to say that one can't build a good (reliable) match grade 1911, it just takes a lot of development to get everything working right. See: Colt Gold Cup. Modern builders have gotten quite proficient at making match grade pistols that will eat anything. Additionally, much of this filtered down to the "non-match" 1911s as well. They will eat most ammo while being surprisingly tight and accurate.
Nowadays? It's a rare modern 1911 that won't simply just work right out of the box with most ammo. My only reliability issues have been my fault (Iffy OAL reloads) or the result of crappy magazines.
Note: as barrel lengths get shorter, things get trickier. Itty Bitty 1911s can be reliable, but it requires a competent builder.

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Could you elaborate?
Sorry, I'm new to all of this...
Custom fitted parts?
The 1911 platform would mean try all have the same parts, right?
You're just dying that the individual parts for better?
I'm confused.
I get the "finish" part.
I've tried to do research but I couldn't find much...
High end guns like Ed Brown or Nighthawk are hand fitted, hand polished, and the parts are made for that frame.
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I have a American Classic 1911 that is very reliable, I think I paid $625 for it.

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I have an old (about 1983) Springfield Parkerized that has proven itself reliable with over 15,000 round through it.

The only time it gave any problems are:
Bad reloads on my part,
Worn magazines, and
When I was learning the 1911, my kitchen table maintenance or upgrades.

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Guns don't keep getting built for over a hundred years, with very little modifications, unless they are reliable. Unreliable guns go the way of the 1907 Dreyse.

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